Loudmouth, I'd take a closer look at the Ukraine and see if it is really the Russians being the aggressor.

If they were, how do you explain the fact that the vast majority of refugees fleeing the Ukraine didn't seek asylum in the west, they went to Russia?

The UNHCR reported that in December 2014 there were half a million internally displaced Ukrainians, 233,000 have applied for refugee status in Russia and 8,639 applied for refugee status in EU.
Things that make you go hmmm.
http://www.unhcr.org/548190aa9.html

Then there is the story of the deals the Ukraine was working on with both the EU and Russia - the EU deal offered $838 MILLION in loans but also demanded major changes to regulations and laws in Ukraine. Meanwhile the Russians were offering Ukraine $27 BILLION in loans plus cheaper gas prices. Hmm, which offer is more attractive? Unfortunately for Yanukovych, he chose the "wrong" deal (ie) Russia. It was soon after this decision that the riots started.

Then we find out that the US has been funneling $5 Billion into the Ukraine. The US has never tried to influence democratically elected governments before - except for Iran in the 1953, Guatemala 1954, The Congo 1961, Chile 1973, Haiti 1991 & 2004 and Venezuela, 2002 <sarc off>

Then there is the strange phone call that was recorded between US Ass Sec of State Victoria Nuland and Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbOwfeoDX2o

contd

Nuland: What do you think?

Pratt: I think we are in play.The Klitschko piece is obviously the complicated electron here. Um. Especially the announcement of him as Deputy Prime Minister, and you've seen some of my notes on the troubles in the marriage. We are trying to get a read really fast on where he is on this stuff ....

N: So I don't think Klitsch should go into the government.I don't think it is ... a good idea.

P: In terms of him not going into the government, just let him stay out and do his political homework ...

N: I think Yats is the guy. He has the economic experience, the governing experience. What he needs is Klitsch and Tyahnybok on the outside, he needs to be talking to them four times a week. I just think Klitsch going in - he's going to be at that level - working for Yatseniuk - it's just not going to work. ....

Guess what Yatseniuk became Ukrainian PM after the 2014 Revolution!
Klitschko is now Mayor of Kiev
Tyahnybok became deputy leader for a short while - his being head of Ukrainian National-Socialist Party, Svoboda, was a bit too awkward for him to stay in that position too long. He is now a councilman in Lviv.

BTW, Victoria Nuland just happens to be married to Neo-Conservative Robert Kagan, co-founder of the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) thinktank which called for a more interventionist US foreign policy - Many members of PNAC were part of George W Bush's government, eg Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, they were the ones pushing the 2003 Iraq invasion.

Wow, just too weird huh? And not a peep about these shenanigans in the MSM - well I never!

Sorry Bob/Arjay, I'm not clear about shat you are complaining of.

Russians living in eastern Ukraine, fleeing back to Russia - what's your point ? A telephone call in which people toss around ideas - So ?

Oh well, back to reality. Thanks anyway, Bob.

Joe

Russia has been an ally of Syria for a long time. It is not that strange that they should give support for Assad and help him in his fight against ISIS.

The US should be doing it's best to stop ISIS as they share some of the responsibility for it.

Ret lieutenant general Michael T Flynn, former US's spy chief saw intelligence reports in August 2012 that stated the US was supporting radical muslim groups eg the Muslim Brotherhood, Al Nusra, Al Qaeda (the so-called moderate Muslims the US was assisting) to help oust the Assad regime in Syria - as well as the risk these groups might form a calaphate, but nothing was done - not just ignored, but worse.

Mehdi Hasan:"Did you say we shouldn't be supporting these groups?"
Michael Flynn:"I did, I mean we argued about the different groups that were there and we said who was involved here and I will tell you that I do believe that the intelligence was very clear. And now it's a matter of whether or not policy is going to be as clear and as defining and as precise as it needs to be and I don't think it was."
...
MH:"You are basically saying that even in government at the time you knew those groups were around (Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qaeda etc) and you saw this analysis and you were arguing against it - but who wasn't listening?"

MF:"I think the administration."

MH:"So the administration turned a blind eye to your analysis.

MF:"I don't know if they turned a blind eye. I think it was a decision, it was a willful decision."

MH:"A willful decision to support an insurgency that had Salafists, Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood?"

MF:"A wilful decision to do what they're doing, which you have to really ask the President what is it that he actually is doing with the policy that is in place because it is very, very confusing. I'm sitting here today Mehdi, and I can't tell you exactly what that is, and I've been at this for a long time"

Well, at least the three stooges of Singer, Planter and Loudmouth have been pushed out of the road for the time being.

But now we have Toni advocating the use of nukes, a novel approach which will strongly appeal to the brain-dead.

We can't stop talking about war and killing, can you?

I'm not!

You GC you :)

Poida
https://youtu.be/vpS31FJO8_o