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Palestine needs more straight talking and less doublespeak : Comments

By David Singer, published 17/8/2015

Those proponents of the two-state solution who continue to allow Abbas to maintain this rejectionist stance are actively contributing to its demise.

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Exactly David! That's is what palestine needs from Netanyahu; and instead they get endless conditions, weasel words and equivocation!? And just for domestic political considerations.

Clearly, a power addicted Netanyahu and his SS troopers; manifestly have no intentions of honoring any genuine peace accord or agreement!?

Given that would end his ability to roll out new jewish settlements and the gerrymander they create, with complete impunity!

If Netanyahu had any other position he would very quickly become just another also ran!

Palestine needs to keep stating its position as an internationally acknowledged state, with internationally recognized borders as already acceded to, and until Netanyahu comes up with an acceptable offer in line with previous agreements!

The commercial boycotts should continue to be progressively magnified/amplified/ramped up, until that happens.

Netanyahu has a small window of opportunity to reach a solid set in concrete deal, due to the advent of ISIL and more important as an issue for former perceived enemies than driving Israel anywhere?

He needs to take his so called conditions off the table and set about making friends of former intractable enemies, as Turkey, Japan, Italy and Germany did!

He just doesn't need them, given Israel is strong enough to defend itself from anyone!

Stop playing the devil's advocate David and start calling this self evidently evil man/power addict to account for his own peace delaying actions/tactics!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Monday, 17 August 2015 10:13:09 AM
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Palestine needs more straight talking and less doublespeak.

I agree, but haw are you going to get the Palestinians to do that? That's the question. Then their is the Question of which Palestinians. Hamas, Abbas, the people themselves, Hezbolla?, ISIS, & any other number of factions that abound in Gaza.
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 17 August 2015 1:13:17 PM
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Palestine's only hope is the majority support of the world's nations. What has happened to Palestine has happened before our eyes - has happened in a time where there are more international instruments of oversight than ever before. There is always room for everyone however when humanity is replaced with inhumanity which can degenerate to the abyss of the brutal then all is lost.
Posted by Gerry Georgatos, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 9:44:15 AM
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Hi Rhosty,

When you say "Palestine needs to keep stating its position as an internationally acknowledged state, with internationally recognized borders as already acceded to .... " which Palestine do you mean ? The Palestine of Abbas and the PLO, or the Palestine of Hamas ?

I'm not exactly sure about Abbas' true position, but Hamas claims all of Israel as part of its territory. So any country which accepts Hamas' definition, is really acceding to the extinction of Israel. Isn't that so ?

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 5:33:03 PM
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When a group of religious extremists are allowed to get a foothold in a nation peopled by another group then the extremists are armed and supported by a imperialist Superpower you are hardly going to get peace everlasting.

Then, when the Extremists then begin to take more and more of the land belonging to the native population and impose more and more heavy restrictions upon them, troubles inevitably grow.

Then, when the Extremists are encouraged to wage wars against their neighbors and take strategic advantages and are rarely condemned for the war crimes they commit, then you have a trouble spot of dangerous proportions which will continue to grow.

And when the Extremists are allowed to develop(or are supplied with with nuclear weapons), the scene is set for catastrophe.

Israel is a disaster and may well be the touchstone for a war that will end the world.

Extremists should be destroyed and strictly controlled whenever they appear.
Posted by David G, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 9:29:32 AM
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Hi David G.,

As you say, "Extremists should be destroyed and strictly controlled whenever they appear."

Yes, indeed: any terrorist force which rains rockets randomly down on a civilian population should be destroyed ... whenever they appear.

My memory is faulty these days, but I seem to recall that, about a year ago, Hamas rained more than two thousand rockets down on the Israeli population - it didn't matter to Hamas where they landed or who they hit or didn't hit. To me, that seems to count as genuine 'Extremism', or even terrorism. What do you reckon ?

In international law, so I understand, perhaps imperfectly, the government of a territory and population that is attacked from another territory has the right to defend itself, and to pursue the perpetrators and to seize the territory from which they launched those attacks - and to seize that territory permanently. E.g., the Sinai Peninsula from Egypt and the Golan Heights from Syria, during the Six-Day War in 1967.

Just tying to help :)

Joe
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Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 9:43:38 AM
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