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Secular humanism: Christianity without Christ? : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 13/8/2015

In our triumphal overthrow of religion, its superstition, its irrationality and general backwardness we have not understood that our society has been structured by this tradition to its overwhelming good.

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What is the Truth of our situation, and does the conventional exoteric religiosity advocated by Sells have anything to do with Truth or Reality?
These references describe the situation:
http://global.adidam.org/books/gift-of-truth-itself
http://global.adidam.org/books/religion-reality
These two references provide a very sobering assessment of what Western civilization in both its secular and so called religious forms is really all about - a universal scape goat machine
http://www.beezone.com/AdiDa/Aletheon/ontranscendingtheinsubordinatemind.html

http://www.beezone.com/AdiDa/Aletheon/there_is_a_way_EDIT.html
Posted by Daffy Duck, Thursday, 13 August 2015 1:43:19 PM
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'Anyone who still believes in superstition and magic is just sad, pathetic and dangerous.'

last time I checked Mikk the secularist were still teaching the total fantasy that this ordered earth came from chaos and that reason came from non reason and that man evolved from monkeys. We also see daily the gw religion pushing its idiotic doctrines and conclusions. Yes superstition is very alive. Funny though the hatred towards directed at Christ whom many claim is non existant. Never could understand why many secularist hated Someone they claimed never existed. Oh well! the age of 'reason'. Thanks for confirming it.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 13 August 2015 2:10:05 PM
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I tend to see people as good but fallible until proven otherwise by their actions. but I can certainly believe you're corrupt at your core Runner given the hate you spew here.

Yuyutsu if they only thing holding you back from raping and killing is a belief in god. You need to take deep hard look at yourself.
I would suggest you don't do those things because you're a good person who does want to those things done to you or your loved ones ie It's the golden rule that drives our moral compass/behavior and other animals for that matter.

Peter, you seem to be railing against individualism rather then secularism. The hyper individualism you see these days in some is actual grounded in US style evangelical Christianity.
Posted by Cobber the hound, Thursday, 13 August 2015 2:17:28 PM
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As an agnostic who believes in the existence of Jesus Christ only - still not sure about a God - I found this article very interesting, although I think Sells got his Russian troll chip at Rhrosty from a recent ABC programme.

I think that the critics of the article are confusing humans purporting to represent Christianity with the actual Christian faith as handed down. The are bad buggers in everything; they certainly don't represent the real deal.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 13 August 2015 3:27:37 PM
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Runner no book on evolution says we evolved from monkey's.
Posted by Cobber the hound, Thursday, 13 August 2015 3:29:10 PM
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Dear Cobber,

I did not claim that the only thing holding me from raping and killing is my belief in God - what I wrote is that it is my spiritual foundation. Belief in God can indeed help and support one's spirituality, but is not a requisite.

Many people are religious without even knowing that they are (thus obviously without believing in God). Your suggestion that I (whom you don't even know) am a good person, hints that you reflect your own goodness on me, hence it is likely that you are among them, having a firm spiritual foundation yourself.

Without such a foundation, you would not be seriously considering the golden rule applicable to yourself (had you been able to get away without it).

The reason (conscious or otherwise) that we apply the golden rule is that deep within we recognise our commonality with others, that since in true essence both I and others are God, we are in fact one and the same, so treating another badly is in fact treating myself badly.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 13 August 2015 3:36:53 PM
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