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Secular humanism: Christianity without Christ? : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 13/8/2015

In our triumphal overthrow of religion, its superstition, its irrationality and general backwardness we have not understood that our society has been structured by this tradition to its overwhelming good.

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Dear Yuyutsu,

I also think you are a good person, but, in addition, I think that God is nothing more than a creation of the human imagination like unicorns and the tooth fairy.
Posted by david f, Thursday, 13 August 2015 4:43:48 PM
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Sells,

As you can see, some people’s reaction to (the title of) your sermon (which I understand means that secular humanism evolved from Christianity in a direction you do not appreciate - neither do I) is similar to some others’ reaction to the darwinian “humans and chimpanzees have common ancestors”: in both cases some people understand this as offending their a priori held worldview beliefs (or unbeliefs).

The question remains whether this is an appropriate pulpit for giving such an explicitly Christian sermon.

By the way, I think emotional outbreaks - whether expressed by references to Soviet sponsored trolls or mumbojumbo - never contribute to a constructive exchange of views and ideas.
Posted by George, Friday, 14 August 2015 7:22:43 AM
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Not much to add here -- except to point out perhaps, that China, which has never had a tradition of Christianity, is progressing towards enlightened secular prosperity much faster than the West did at a similar stage in its development, and much, much faster than those nations still dominated by theocratic institutions like those in the Middle East. The facts are against you, Peter -- but you already knew that, I think.
Posted by Jon J, Friday, 14 August 2015 7:39:55 AM
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George,
I am not sure what you are saying. Are we to keep the gospel within the church? One of the consequences of secularisation is that preaching never reaches the pubic square. Should I desist from writing here altogether?
Posted by Sells, Friday, 14 August 2015 8:43:19 AM
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Sells,

All I was trying to say was that one should adjust to the anticipated audience the way one presents one’s arguments in defence of one’s (Christian) position. I indeed think that in our age - it was different a few decades ago - preaching belongs to the church i.e. where the audience can be assumed to have some Christian worldview “prerequisites” (otherwise they would not have come to your church).
Posted by George, Friday, 14 August 2015 9:04:46 AM
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George,
As I have said before, I have a long list of people who subscribe to my articles and who mostly appreciate them. Therefore I feel no compunction to aim at the commenters who seem beyond reason.
Posted by Sells, Friday, 14 August 2015 9:34:46 AM
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