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Secular humanism: Christianity without Christ? : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 13/8/2015

In our triumphal overthrow of religion, its superstition, its irrationality and general backwardness we have not understood that our society has been structured by this tradition to its overwhelming good.

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Rhosty,
You are a Soviet sponsored troll. Admit it! I have heard about people like you who make up propaganda to support the political line and jump on anyone who does not. What other explanation can there be for someone purposely misinterpreting what I am saying and coming up with the same old tired stuff that you should know that I do not support.
Do they pay you in roubles?
Posted by Sells, Thursday, 13 August 2015 11:23:21 AM
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Religions are about control, confidence trick, selling words based on some future prediction and or assurances of an afterlife. below attempts to compare religious trickery with democracy and market forces capitalism:

Religion, especially catholic religion, are into ceremonies. Congregational followers are witnessing religious procedure as some evidence that god, for whom the ceremonies are for, exists. As religions can't prove religions can actually speak to god as priests pray, democracy governments and market forces governing economies, put on performances similar to religion's “in your face” ceremonies and priestly praying.

Market forces capitalism is a replacement for god, when things go wrong “blame it on god”. Priests were trying to persuade congregations that priests had some influence with god. Politicians try to persuade citizens politicians have some limited control over market forces. When markets crash, governments come to the rescue. What can be seen are The Three Stooges announcement performances played out over a period, giving ideas that without government to rescue the economy, things could have been worse.

Religions were in control of the magic: media reports of scientific breakthroughs in medical research; space travel; Catalyst programs, aid support for profit making capitalist systems.
As religions promises of an afterlife magic is impossible to prove, as people have to die to find out if the afterlife promises were real, congregations in fear of death, emotionally decide to believe the magic is real. Religions armed with congregations devotion, religions can abuse congregations with fearful threats of heresy; wars defending religions; slave labour building projects. Allowing limited number of god given wrights, leaders to live luxurious lives, controlling land for their own profits. Those one sided wealth creation days are gone, yet the tricks of manipulation are maintained.

The real problem is human children allow themselves to be programmed... parents being programmed can't help themselves, knowing no better.
Posted by steve101, Thursday, 13 August 2015 12:08:26 PM
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Dear Sells,

False gods (There are no true ones.) are worshiped by many. The Soviet Union and Jesus are two examples. Both no longer exist. We know that the Soviet Union existed, and Jesus might have existed.

However, it is called redbaiting when people who don't like other people's opinions accuse them of being in the pay of the communists.

Have you no shame, Sells?
Posted by david f, Thursday, 13 August 2015 12:12:12 PM
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if Jesus is the issue, Christ is a vague concept of sacrifice. The Jesus Christ should be Jesus "THE" Christ.
Jesus is a story of a whistle Blower, "money tables tipped over on the temple steps", temple priests deciding to get rid of Jesus. The following story is all about threating whistle blowers.

Public executions were often done to warn populations what would happen if people continue to complain about priests and ruling classes, guessing money grabbing behaviours. Jesus story is a public execution trumped up charges of heresy in a book called the bible.

Once intelligent people have been made aware of the Jesus story as parable threats, constant reminders are in social media, remind people in that know the meaning of the story.

Google "pentagrams 5 wounds of Jesus" to read more. Than notice that pentagrams have replaced crosses imagery.
Posted by steve101, Thursday, 13 August 2015 12:24:55 PM
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The issue that secularist hate the most is the fact that we are all born with a corrupt nature. The only Man who never sinned was Christ. Despite clear evidence on this forum and everywhere else, the corruption of man is on display. Often it is masked by politeness or pseudo science. This generation is as perverse if not more so than any other in history. The mass slaughter of unborn babies is clear evidence of this. The stinking self righteous pride of god deniers can't and won't stop the collapse of such a perverse generation. The surprising thing is that people are dumb enough to ask why we have so much suicide, so much drug addiction and so much violence. Just look inside and the answer is obvious.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 13 August 2015 12:38:14 PM
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Deluded much runner? It is not secularism that is dying it is religion.

No one goes to church any more.
Football has more adherents and more participants than any of your churches.
Rock stars are worshiped more than your imaginary friend in the sky.
People donate more money to Greenpeace than they do to you godbotherers.

It is 2015. Anyone who still believes in superstition and magic is just sad, pathetic and dangerous.
Posted by mikk, Thursday, 13 August 2015 1:29:29 PM
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