Loudmouth,
Can you or anyone else please answer me this...

And don't get all "he must be an anti-semite!" on me.
I'm really tired of that bs so I will call that out first.
http://youtu.be/z_Dc-kT4Zbc

This is a serious question.

Why should the Palestinians recognise Israel's right to exist?

//And don't get all "he must be an anti-semite!" on me.
I'm really tired of that bs so I will call that out first.//

You're not an anti-semite because you support Palestine. You're an anti-semite because you are a Holocaust denier:

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=17410#307850

Piss off and spread your hateful crap on some Neo-Nazi forum where people might listen to you.

Well said Toni Lavis

Yes http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=17410&page=0#307850 says it all about AC's denial.

Where I lived in Germany was only 10km from Belsen.

All the Germans I've met (in Australia, the UK and Germany) are very much aware of, and apologetic about, the Holocaust.

Regards

Pete

I did write a response to the comments on the other thread, I just didn't post it.

I totally resent both your accusations and I have to say it disgusts and offends me, and I'm trying really hard to tolerate your abuse.

My questions and criticism of Israel, Zionism and the Jewish people has nothing to do with race, religion or anything else.
Not only would my questions and criticisms be just the same if it were any other race, I wholeheartedly assure you that these questions and criticisms would be just the same even if the EVENTS MY QUESTIONS AND CRITICISMS WERE BASED UPON were committed not only by MY FELLOW AUSTRALIANS but even if it were by MEMBERS OF MY OWN FAMILY.

But speaking of MY family...

My Great Grandfather lead men into battle on the battlefields of Gallipoli on a damn horse fighting for this country - a war that Rothschild Zionists had a hand in instigating.

WW2 was in part a direct result of WW1, with reparations and such and that Zionists had helped the US into WW1 which turned the tides on the Germans in that war, and that Germany was again becoming a strong economic and industrial power under Hitler and National Socialism.

My Grandfathers fought for this country in WW2, which was a war that Jewish / Zionists helped to PROVOKE when THEY PRONOUNCED WAR on Germany in 1933. And THEY (My Grandfathers) fought on the side that helped to LIBERATE the Jewish people from those said work or concentration camps.

My family (Not just my Great Grandfather and Grandfathers, but their brothers and sisters and even their parents) all sacrificed and endured a lot because of these wars which Zionists / Jewish people instigated, and we helped to liberate YOU.

So to imply I have no right to question events surrounding these wars disgusts and offends me, and your abusive statements add insult to injury and sicken me.

Oh.. Im an anti-semite because I'm a holocaust denier... What an absolute load of crap.

Questioning events surrounding WW1 and WW2 doesnt make a person racist.

Either way -

The Palestinian inhabitants themselves did nothing in WW1 or WW2 or otherwise that would give Zionist or Jewish people the right to conspire in the creation of wars; or make deals during or following such wars that sought to forcably take or displace the current Palestinian inhabitants from their lands.

SO - Nothing that happened in WW1 or WW2 or otherwise can be used for justification of the creation of the State of Israel in Palestine IMO.

But the Jewish people most certainly have an undeniable historic biblical connection to those lands (The Holy lands) , I will not deny that.

But if its the biblical connection and creation of a Jewish state you're using as the REAL context for Israels creation and existance then its valid to asume its imperial aspirations have regard to its biblical borders or the ones put forward in the Mandate for Palestine.

- And that Israel does not want a 2 state solution and never did, that it seeks a 'Jewish' State and to drive the Arabs off the land, by any means - even a slow genocide.

Dont call me a racist simply because I question events in history and know that you label people 'Holocaust Deniers' in order to label them 'anti-Semites' and its all just a ploy to make sure no one criticises or questions what Israel does.

Because Israel uses the Holocaust to somehow justify Israels creation to all the mass of gullible idiots (Like it even had anything to do with it if it did happen) and to stifle any dissent in that Israels REAL plan all along was to take all the land and that it never had any interest in a 2 state solution.

How can it, when it wants a 'Jewish' state and the inhabitants are Arabs.
Are you really trying to fool me that any Jewish state can be democratic?

Hi CHERFUL

Yes Israel certainly needs buffer zones.

Regards

Pete