Phanto, you’re absolutely right that I am uncomfortable with your crass and boorish behaviour. You’re also absolutely right that I would prefer you shut up. Not because I think your argument is strong, but because it disgusts me and that you cannot see why disgusts me even more. What is wrong with you?

Leave the poor woman alone.

Dr Russell, domestic violence has been at the forefront of social reform for decades before the 60s. Churches and social welfare groups, many of them run by men, were in the vanguard. The issue was hijacked by a relatively small group of women around the late 60s, inspired by the (later acknowledged as fabricated) claims of Betty Friedan and her book The Feminine Mystique. It has been used as a political tool ever since, most notably by the cabal of "femocrats" including Anne Summers and Joan Kirner, who were part of the Hawke Government's advisory group on "women's issues" and who incidentally made a rather nice career for themselves as professional feminist political operatives.

Decent men have not sought to stop women from being heard on the issue of domestic violence and have never condoned those men who commit it.

On the other hand, there is essentially no support from women to be heard when men try to raise issues of discrimination or bad social outcomes for men or the negative impact of genderised social change generally. That was the point of my earlier comment regarding female champions of change. The difference is very clear and in my opinion it represents the biggest threat that the feminist movement faces. A large class of people has been created that has been on the wrong side of the gender divide in social policy and as a result, they are staunchly opposed to feminist policies.

There's nothing democratic about picking winners, Dr Russell.

Craig :
Why would my arguments disgust you? They are simply opinions - a bunch of words. How can they have such an effect on you unless they somehow strike a nerve with you.

You seem almost at the point of becoming violent yourself and I am glad I am not in the same room as you.

Phanto, Craig Minns is correct to dress you down for your disgusting comments about what you think Rosie Batty feels.
She had left this violent guy years before he killed his son, so what you are saying is absolute bulls excrement.
Even if she hadn't, you have NO idea about what these sort of women feel...

Phanto

Is it possible for someone to disagree with you without you insulting them?

You may recall this paragraph from my recent article 'Nice bloke or smug thugs':
"They do not respond respectfully to alternate views. Instead, they react aggressively. They will interrupt, talk loudly and mock. They shoot the messenger rather than listen to the message. ‘Argumentum ad hominem’ replaces reasoned arguments".

Suzeonline:
“Craig Minns is correct to dress you down for your disgusting comments...” There is no need to hide behind Craig just tell me what you think.

Sarah:
“Is it possible for someone to disagree with you without you insulting them?”
Yes.
Or were you being sarcastic which is just another form of aggression?

Phanto

It was simple question.

You say it is possible for someone to disagree with you without you insulting them. I have not seen evidence of this. On this thread, whenever anyone disagrees with you, you have shot off any angry, and often personally insulting, reply. You have insulted me, Killarney, Susieonline and Rosie Batty. You have also insulted Craig Minns.

For example, you have claimed I am a "very dishonest and manipulative person". This is personally insulting. On two occasions, I have asked you to support this claim with evidence. You have not.

I suggest you take notice of how Craig Minns argues. Unlike you, Craig Minns substantiates his claims with evidence. You on the other hand just make wild accusations