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Male champions of change : Comments

By Sarah Russell, published 24/4/2015

The aim of 'Male Champions of Change' is for men in positions of power to advance gender equality. Let's hope they have more luck than women have had in that task.

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Roscop

It's interesting that you have reduced yourself to using a poorly reported northern NSW case and an isolated New Zealand case from 'many years ago' to create a benchmark for a trope about women who set out to falsely convict a man for attacking and raping them a public bike path.

Sorry, but I'm at a total loss as to what could possibly motivate a woman to bring a false charge of rape/assault against a stranger on a public bike path ... but whatever. Under a patriarchy, misogyny and gynaphobia need no explanation.

Jay/Craig

Craig claims that feminism is a Marxian dialect.Jay claims that feminism is the 'little sister of capitalism'.

Oh, dear.What a flexible little movement feminism is! Only limit by men's febrile imagination.
Posted by Killarney, Monday, 4 May 2015 7:10:16 AM
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Dr Russell, sorry for taking so long to get back to you. I'd suggest you have a look at the whole series of AWALI reports if you're interested in issues of social welfare and their impact on individual wellbeing. The survey of satisfaction with work/life balance is particularly interesting, especially the gendered aspects. In a nutshell, most men would like to have more work available and most women would like to be able to work less, while overall satisfaction among the WORKING population is at only 65% and has stabilised over the past few years at that level, possibly as people's expectations have been lowered.

R0bert, you're quite right to say that for most of us, sitting in the boss's chair isn't ever going to happen. For far too many of us though, sitting across the dining table from an empty chair is an all too familiar experience. What a distorted social structure we have allowed to be constructed around us.

Killarney, I am saddened by my failure to meet your expectations yet again and a little flattered that they are so high. I'll try to do better in future.
Posted by Craig Minns, Monday, 4 May 2015 7:26:44 AM
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Killarney, a "dialectic" is a rationalisation or argument to justify a particular set of conclusions that may not necessarily be directly observable empirically. A "dialect" is a variant of a language, often geographically limited in range.

"Capitalism" is a Marxist concept, which defines a mode of economic organisation in which labour is controlled by capital.

There is no contradiction.

I do hope my response is compliant with your response time and emotional tone guidelines on this occasion.
Posted by Craig Minns, Monday, 4 May 2015 7:36:05 AM
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Killarney, I did not say anything about "an isolated New Zealand case" in my previous post. I referred to a police analysis of many cases.

It was absolutely amazing that Hamilton, NZ police were able to get away with doing just that much considering that feminism has had such an overwhelming stranglehold over what gets reported about women's involvement with the eroding justice system.

The Albury(southern NSW) incident only saw the light of day in the media because the Mayor made a commonsense remark that upset the feminist mob. You find not too infrequently the same sort of thing with other cases like the Bulldogs northern NSW incident and the case involving a woman catching her partner with email on his laptop from another woman, once you scratch the surface of these types of cases you get a picture of something much much different from that which was initially alleged. This does not in anyway help women who have legitimate complaints because it can therefore be seen that all allegation involving serious allegations need to be rigorously and thoroughly tested.

A lot surrounding allegations made by women gets suppressed by the courts. Take the Luke Batty murder case as an example. There is a suppression order on the coroner's findings which is said to be in the best interests of the public(huh?). Also information about the latter domestic violence order that was taken out, has also been suppressed. Meanwhile Rosie Batty tells her version of events in a Womens Weekly, April 2015 edition, 4 page cover story and according to that story she is going around the country signing book deals and getting herself on to PM task forces. The chronology included in the story has many holes in it, too numerous to go into here.
Posted by Roscop, Monday, 4 May 2015 11:31:20 AM
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Saw one definition of a misogynist as being a male who dares to disagree with a woman in particular a feminist.
Posted by Wolly B, Monday, 4 May 2015 8:31:30 PM
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Craig

'I do hope my response is compliant with your response time and emotional tone guidelines on this occasion.'

No. You're just being your usual patronising, passive-aggressively hostile self.

Roscop (et al)

Feminist 'stranglehold'? 'Feminist mob'? OH ... pleeeese.

If you look back through this whole thread (and other OLO gender threads), the comments are just DRIPPING with this grotesque hatred and fear of feminism. Nowhere is there ever any attempt to understand or accept its right to exist - no, it's just there to be ripped to shreds with endless rage and lies and self-pity.

Do you guys EVER stop to consider how ugly all your anti-feminist rage is? You just POUR out your anti-feminist venom to contaminate every gender thread on OLO and then you innocently claim that it's the FEMINISTS who are bullying the men? (Hardly any women ever even participate on the gender threads, let alone feminists. There's only ever me and Suse and that's about it ... up against at least a dozen raging and fuming anti-feminist dudes per thread.)

The sad and pathetic part of it all is that your behaviour is simply CONFIRMING why women so badly need feminism. And it only confirms why so many women leave their marriages. But the real sadness is that all you men really, really want is for a woman to love you. If so, then trust me ... you're going about it the wrong way. If you're alone and lonely, I'm not at all surprised.
Posted by Killarney, Monday, 4 May 2015 11:16:24 PM
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