Craig Minns

Thanks for the lyrics - I agree there are many 'walking wounded' (both men and women). I think this explains, in part, why men and women become so heated when having these types of discussions.

We are all susceptible to confirmation bias. I agree that life experiences (and personality types) create a preference for particular viewpoints that makes us vulnerable to confirmation bias.

The challenge for us all, myself included, is to be aware of our confirmation bias and to try to keep an open mind. There is no point engaging in a discussion if you have already made up your mind, particularly when you ‘know’ the other person is wrong.

Having an open mind - and not attributing mischievous motives to those with a different point of view - is essential for progress

Suseonline,

I am sorry that you are unable to grasp what I said. Your response indicates that I over-estimated you.

I will not bother you again.

Sarah, interesting that you responed to my comments with "You begin your recent post by insulting Killarney and Suseonline"

I didn't see a similar approach to Killarney who said "These guys are veteran OLO veteran fraudsters, who twist the research and statistics beyond all recognition to suit their own self-pitying, women-despising agenda." etc http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=17286#305193

And Suseonline in the 4th post of the thread "you will get nothing but vitriolic rants about this subject on this male dominated forum." plus a long history of dismissing anything that looks like recognition of the issues facing men.

And yet the "insult" you chose to pick up on was my reference to their determined effortsd on that front.

R0bert

Sarah, without wishing to divert you from consideration of the point I made in the previous post I would like to highlight that in regard to your comment about "unsubstantiated claims" that I had previously posted links to material which makes a start on substantiating the case against DV being an overwhelmingly male act against women.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=17286#305183

Material which I've not seen any indication that you bothered to look at. The closest I've seen was this which does not give the impression of and interest in substantiating material "To those who are focussing their comments on domestic violence, I have done no research on domestic violence, nor experienced it. I have not heard of “the standard feminist dogma regarding domestic violence”, nor know what this even means. Before writing this article, I read the statistics – to demonstrate that domestic violence is not a myth. I am aware that it occurs in all areas of society (upper, middle and working classes) and to both men and women."

There are word games can be played, it's an opinion site and not everything gets backed by evidence on the spot.

Nor can every claim be readily substantiated in a format like this. Often our views are the result of long experience. Opinion sites provide opportunity to test those views against others experience and have demonstrated where the flaws in views may exist.

R0bert

The political correct argument for equality is a load of crap.
We cant have equality, because we are not all made equal.

Who do you want rescuing you from a burning building?
A 90 - 100kg male who can easily carry you.

- Or a 55kg woman who successfully argued for equality.

Case Closed Morons... Get Real

... And maybe one day magazines will start putting ugly people on their covers.

Armchair Critic,

"Who do you want rescuing you from a burning building?
A 90 - 100kg male who can easily carry you.

- Or a 55kg woman who successfully argued for equality."

I'd first want to have a look at the woman. You never know, she might be a bit of ok, it might be worth going with her for the free grapple because you know how tight you've gotta hang on coming down a ladder. Or alternatively she could be equally useful by holding the ladder steady whilst 100kg male comes to get you and brings you down. That way you might get a nice view from above if she has a top button or two open trying to cool off from the heat of the fire and her hot female flushes.