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Rhrosty.

An excellent article in this season of care for those less fortunate than ourselves - a vowel for the author please.

When all is said and done I see meself as the Men's Shed like bloke with the big hammer who nailed our Lord to the Cross. In the course of which I hit me thumb. Bugger!

Where's runner when you need im?

All too true...

I'm not after a government messiah, but I make no apologies for wanting good government. There are many problems that governments are best placed to fix, able to fix, but not willing to fix. But at the moment, more often than not, the government has the intention of doing things that will make them worse.

The first page of this essay was quite good.
The second page was unmitigated garbage!

"Australians today are in desperate search for a messiah." Wrong, just Pollies that take the job seriously.

As for the Christian message talk about not being able to deliver. Finally Easter message of renewal existed long before Christians co-opted it with their story about their sugar daddy in the sky.

Only the flying Spaghetti monster can save us, may his sauces flow over us.

The second half of this video by a former Paster Keith Parsons makes some very interesting points about claims of Christ's resurrection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WINUDnoBbU

Warning not a video for those who get offended by the failings of christian beliefs being addressed (unless you really enjoy being offended).

R0bert

Slight correction to my previous post, the section on the resurrection starts just before the 6 minute mark.

R0bert

JOYS OF CRUCIFIXION

G'day Robert

Here is a much more historically accurate shorty on the benefits of:

Crucifixion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EI7p2p1QJI

Happy Easter

plantagenet, I appreciate the work that went into capturing the historical detail and the range of issues covered in that video but it's probably a bit theologically heavy for most to cope with. Far better seen as part of the whole documentary to get the sense of how it all fit's together.

R0bert

OK, we've got the traditional Easter wiffle over with, time to get back to serious matters again...

Hi R0bert

Being serious now, I, as a spiritual bean, return to Life of Brian, where the Crucifees are all secured with ropes, not nails, THE WIMPS. Then addressed by me mate the Centurian:

"All right! All right! All right! We'll soon settle this! Hands up, all those who don't want to be crucified here."

No hands up - problem solved.

The truly Philosophical part is to this catchy tune in Living Colour https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlBiLNN1NhQ :

"Cheer up, Brian. You know what they say.
Some things in life are bad.
They can really make you mad.
Other things just make you swear and curse.
When you're chewing on life's gristle,
Don't grumble. Give a whistle.
And this'll help things turn out for the best.
And...

Always look on the bright side of life.
Always look on the light side of life.

If life seems jolly rotten,
There's something you've forgotten,
And that's to laugh and smile and dance and sing.
When you're feeling in the dumps,
Don't be silly chumps.
Just purse your lips and whistle. That's the thing.
And...
Always look on the bright side of life.

SEVERAL: [whistling]

SEVERAL: Always look on the right side of life,

[whistling]

MR. FRISBEE: For life is quite absurd
And death's the final word.
You must always face the curtain with a bow.
Forget about your sin.
Give the audience a grin.

Life's a piece of shitt,
When you look at it.
Life's a laugh and death's a joke. It's true.
You'll see it's all a show.
Keep 'em laughing as you go.
Just remember that the last laugh is on you.

Always look on the bright side of death,
[whistling]
Just before you draw your terminal breath."

Which I think is the essence of Christian belief at Easter.

Words here http://www.montypython.net/brianmm3.php

And the catchy tune in Living Colour https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlBiLNN1NhQ

Merry Easter to all :)

Pete

plantagenet, I think there are nails there, just a distinct lack of blood etc https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tRJlo2WRDbw.

Maybe they slipped just a litle on the accuracy in that scene.

R0bert

Howdy R0bert

Nah! Those Crusifixees got little platforms and ropes round their arms - THE WIMPS.

I mean how can ya be rebirthed on the thrid day if ya haven't been properly crucixfied?

Must be something in the Bible about boutique Crucifixions!

So where has Christ's suffering, poverty and his murder under the Romans gone? A thriving worldwide business run by Romans - thanks tah - 50 seconds in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFTL1YZtYL4 .

Merry Easter - minus High Churches (and Happy Clappies) :)

"Australians today are in desperate search for a messiah."

We are all in desperate search for salvation.

Some seek it in food, sex, alcohol, sports, thrill, entertainment, whatever, then we realise it's not it, but keep going round and round...

But government? of all things? One may believe that Australians are not very bright and one may feel bitter about them not knowing God, but that's truly an extreme and unwarranted assault on their intelligence. It would be wiser to look for the Messiah even among your dog's leeches!

The author claims that "The Easter message tells us that government can be good [but it can never be god]": No. If anything, the Easter message tells us that government is bad, that it is the source of most troubles - wasn't it the government of the day which crucified Jesus, the best among men?

I would like to convey my condolences on this day to my Christian friends in this forum: while Jesus himself won over death, not so his disciples and it is heart-breaking when your master-teacher passes away, when you realise that s/he will no longer answer and guide you in the body with divine and unconditional love when you are lost and in need and that for all the wisdom s/he could still impart, now s/he will remain silent. I know how it feels and I share this pain with you.

>Australians today are in desperate search of a Messiah<

You rang?
Rhrosty.

Dear Sir Rhrosty von Messiah

While celebrating Jesus' resserection with gobs of chocolate, it is my profound belief that Cardinal Pell will become the new Pope in which case one should not expect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqreRufrkxM