Mens Health

The statistics you cite do not provide context. Neither do they refute the current model for dealing with domestic violence - which is that women are substantially the victims of domestic homicide and domestic violence and that the major perpetrators of domestic violence on both men and women - are MEN.

Cultural/official acknowledgment and acceptance that men form a minority of domestic homicide/violence victims - and women the perpetrators - has been an essential part of DV policy since the 1980s and police and social workers are fully trained to recognise and address it. Police prejudice towards male DV victims has changed a great deal since the 1980s, thanks to the feminist campaign to have DV taken out of the 'domestic affair' closet and made an important part of public discourse and official policy.

The underlying agenda of these 'what about the men' articles is NOT to raise awareness about a problem that is already well recognised (i.e. that men are also victims of domestic violence). The agenda of this faux 'awareness raising' is to DISCREDIT FEMINISM.

Hi Killarney,

I simply posted the data you requested in order to be courteous and helpful. I'm not citing this data in order to engage in a debate with you. I just think it's important that the correct data is cited whenever discussions like this take place.

The ABS and AIC data does not show that the major perpetrators of domestic violence on men are men. 50% of perpetrators of domestic homicide against men are female. 94% of perpetrators of violence against male partners, boyfriends and dates are female.

Source: Australian Bureau of Statistics (2013), Table 6 EXPERIENCE OF VIOLENCE SINCE THE AGE OF 15, Relationship to perpetrator by sex of perpetrator. 26,500* males experienced violence from a male partner and 427,900 males experienced violence from a female partner since the age of 15. 18,700** males experienced violence from a boyfriend or male date and 295,100 males experienced violence from a girlfriend or female date since the age of 15.

No quantitative data like the ABS and AIC datasets provides context. For this you need to look at qualitative research. I suggest readers look at the Intimate Partner Abuse of Men study at http://web.archive.org/web/20110727183821/http://www.man.org.au/News/IntimatePartnerAbuseofMen/tabid/132/Default.aspx. This provides context for male victims of intimate partner violence (not broader family violence) and shows that they have very similar experiences to female victims.

<This is the very kind of bigotry and disinformation perpetrated by anti-feminist dogma,

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Posted by Killarney, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 6:27:03 AM

Killarney that is really "The pot calling the Kettle black!"

Killarney:
If what I had to say was so obviously false then why bother arguing with me at all? It is like arguing with someone who believes the earth is flat. The only reason you would argue with them is if you were not completely convinced it was round.

Suzeonline:
I thought you said you were going to leave us to it.

Hi Killarney, the second wave feminist dogmatic model is "important" because there is a large cohort of women in positions of power within social justice and bureaucratic fields who were educated in that dogma and who have benefitted from its existence through preferential treatment ("affirmative action").

However, it has been a dismal failure in actually creating a better set of social justice outcomes, especially in the area of domestic issues, such as DV or division of labour with the family.

It has very little relevance to the next generation of men and women, who have to a very large extent rejected it as merely being a swapping of nameplates on the doors of power.

We need to get past the toxic idea that gender is a field of conflict. Second wave feminism is based entirely on that idea and that is why it is a failure.

@Killarney stated:
"Cultural/official acknowledgment and acceptance
that men form a minority of domestic homicide/violence
victims - and women the perpetrators - has been an
essential part of DV policy since the 1980s and
police and social workers are fully trained to recognize
and address it. Police prejudice towards male DV victims
has changed a great deal since the 1980s"

It has been recognized alright and steps have been taken to minimize and dismiss men's claims of being victims.

If we refer to the Judicial Domestic Violence Bench Book Section 5 (Victoria):
We find the handling of men's claims of being a DV victim are to be dismissed as trivial or the man is to be accused of lying or police are to presume that he provoked it (he deserved whatever she handed out). If he still persists he is to be referred to the men's change program (the one set up for perpetrators). Women on the other hand are always to be believed. In other words your post is totally wrong.