Don't forget the woman in Cairns who murdered 8 children.

@Suseonline You ask why men don't just report what happens to them. First off in increasing numbers they are. ABS 2012 Safety Survey reports over 100,000 in 2012.
In Victoria at least this is quite difficult.
If we refer to:
Victorian Judicial College’s ‘”Family Violence Bench Book”
5.4.5 – Responding to men who claim(1) to be victims of family violence
Police protocols require that men's claims are to be severely questioned and if possible dismissed. If this is not possible then they are to be accused of lying to cover their perpetration of DV. If that fails they are asked what they did to provoke her (blame the victim). If all this fails they are given a referal to an organization which conducts Men's change programs for perpetrators. After that they are on their own. Non of these things happen to women.

Wolly B, you say:

"Don't forget the woman in Cairns who murdered 8 children."

I sure all of the panelists on Q and A were aware of that atrocity and would have been extremely pleased that it wasn't made a point of discussion.

On the tree of family violence that would have to be at the pinnacle.

It is hard enough to comprehend how a person could murder one child but murdering eight takes too much vicarious thought.

One thing I find puzzling is that Feminists have been fighting against discrimination, claiming equality.

Yet when it comes to this issue of family violence, Feminist actively encourage discrimination against men.

Feminist hate being categorised in one group, claiming that there are many types of feminism.

Yet when is comes to the broken record claim of breaking the silence about family violence, the word 'Men' is used to encompass all men, whether they are violent or not.

There is no qualifier that feminists that they are talking about a specific extremely small group of men, who for what ever reason, whether it be drug and alcohol, mental illness, acquired brain injury, sociopath or psychopath behaviours, or just plain evil, will commit violence against another human being.

No the word "men" is meant to apply to all males, including the innocent.

vr041 referenced some material early. Might be worth referenceing some more for those genuinely interested.

http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/V75-Straus-09.pdf

A bunch of material at the MediaRadar site
http://www.mediaradar.org/index.php

One of the papers refrenced at the MediaRadar site gives a pretty good summary of key findings of the "Partner Abuse State of Knowledge Project"
http://domesticviolenceresearch.org/pdf/FindingsAt-a-Glance.Nov.23.pdf

R0bert

Much of this discussion keeps dropping back to tactics used by ChazP sometime back on OLO - a bit scattered but maybe start with http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=14739#254188.

The "Crime Research Centre and Donovan Research, 2001" had included the following '23% of young people between the ages of 12 and 20 years had witnessed an incident of physical violence against their mother/stepmother' which ChazP quoted without providing a reference.

When asked about the rates involving female initiated violence ChazP had this to say "if you had read and understood my posting you would have seen the highly credible source of the statistics. The reasons it does not include the figures you `suspect' is because they are at best negligible, and more accurately non-existent"

Houellebecq located the report and quite near the stat ChazP was happy to quote was the following "and 22% against their father/stepfather"

When ChazP eventually responded to being caught out the response was "The selective use/misuse of information is part and parcel of any debate".

Those pushing the highly gendered view of DV are not doing so honestly. They quite deliberately hide and suppress information that does not suit their agenda's.

R0bert