"Why Anderson did that, or what else happened to him before that day is hardly the point!
He killed a boy, his own son!"

I agree there is never sufficient reason for that kind of violence. The reality is though that many humans have shown a capacity for utterly unreasonable choices when push beyond a breaking point. Context does matter.

I know nothing of the background to that particular situation and won't attempt to read into it specifically.

I do think that one of the problems with the way these issues are played in the media is that because only part of the story is told it can create a very lopsided view. When someone cracks like that there should be a determined attempt to understand why and I've seen little evidence that is the case.

What lead to the residency arrangements that were in place? What involvement did CSA have? What else was going on which might have contributed to pushing someone over an edge that is very foreign to our (and most) cultural values?

We should be speaking out against all non-consensual violence, regardless of the gender or perpetrator, victim, relationship status etc. We should also be doing our best to ensure that the government does not play the part of agent for some of the non-physical forms of that violence. To often it seems that the government is ever so keen to be the agent of abuse with no safeguards to prevent that.

R0bert

Susieonline,

"Why Anderson did that, or what else happened to him before that day is hardly the point!" Right so you're not interested in what caused him to go insane. You can be sure that the coroner will have looked at what happened to him before that day but more than likely I would say only in a way limited by politics.

Murders will continue to occur until policy makers look at the relationship between these events in terms of parents who have no convictions(not just unproven allegations) and who are denied by the courts meaningful access to "their children". Most AVO's do not have proven allegations supporting them because the courts are from what I've gleaned over the years, not all that interested in determining whether a domestic violence offence actually took place but only in separating the parties usually by without prior notice of the process, coaxing the respondent party into agreeing to accepting an AVO on the basis of that party "making no admissions". Usually this means in many instances unjustly separating usually men from their children and shaming one party in the community when members of it like teachers etc are informed that the person has an AVO out on him. I take it Susieonline that you'd have no problem with fathers being unjustly shamed.

Susieonline I have absolutely no qualms about referring to the Batty case. Rosie Batty accepted Australian of the Year(awarded prematurely for the reason given above). She has had a high media profile since the tragic event and has projected herself to the public as a domestic violence expert. I think it is only right that her case should be given a proper and thorough examination...much more than what I fear the coroner's court will give it and certainly a lot more than the media including Q and A has given it.

Susieonline, "No one here has suggested women don't perpetrate domestic violence,..."

May I suggest that you'd be amongst the very last that suggest they do.

Susie, Rosie is being used as the new poster girl to bring attention to Domestic Violence against Women.

Her situation is being used by Domestic Violence against Women advocates to increase awareness of Domestic Violence against Women.

Her case could also be used to bring awareness about the failure of our So called mental health services. Had we still had the type of mental health services that existed 30 years ago Greg Anderson looked like he may have been a candidate to be sectioned.

Who knows what the outcome would have been had Greg Anderson been properly treated to his deteriorating mental state or been incarcerated for his own protection.

Unless steps are taken to assist men like Greg Anderson, the DV rate is unlikely to decrease by much at all.

JOM: “The ideals of drawing attention to a particular subject or raising awareness of a social problem and that of actually doing something about it are two different things, Batty and Goodes fall into the former category.”

I think this is the crux of the issue. It is not what women like Batty say but what they do that should be the focus. They seem to have an inordinate need to keep telling us that domestic violence exists and men are the predominant perpetrators as if it were a new phenomenon.

Why do they need to blame men – there is nothing to be gained by constantly stating the obvious unless of course you are trying deflect attention from yourself.

Many women stay in domestic relationships long after they have become dysfunctional because they are emotionally dependent on those relationships. They feel guilty about that dependence especially when their children are traumatised by having to live with an abusive male that their mother is dependent on. It is much easier for them to shift the blame onto the man than to face their own insecurities. The guiltier they feel the more aggressive they become in their blaming.

This then becomes their narrative and they band together with other insecure women who create a chorus that manipulates public opinion. There would be a lot less domestic violence if women left relationships when they first saw signs of it but they don’t. They do not have the courage to leave and spend their lives blaming men for behaviour over which they have no control.

It is good that help is provided for all victims of all violence but where are the women’s voices warning young women in particular about becoming emotionally dependent on domestic relationships? Why are they not encouraging women to become emotionally independent and to stand up to the constant brain washing that tells them the only valid happiness is domestic happiness?

Little Chloe died in Adelaide at the hands of of a drug addicted mother and her boyfriend, she did not want Chloe from day one, this killing is as bad and if not worse than the Battye case, women are also killers of men and children Susie.