For once I agree with you Onthebeach.
We DO need a serious study on the causes of all the violence we see in our homes and on the street.

I was reading an article on alcohol-fueled violence which was interesting.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-27/macho-culture-to-blame-for-alcohol-fuelled-violence-dr-anne-fox/6270072

Obviously, all we have been doing to try and stop the violence has not worked so far, so maybe we should not keep looking at just the old 'causes' of violence amongst humans, such as alcohol or drugs.

Maybe there are other underlying factors or causes that fuel the violence in some people... such as encouraging violent sports such as boxing or shooting.
Are we as a society encouraging violence in our young (and not so young) people in some way... ,?

Susie,

Early research into DV, distanced the issue of drug and alcohol abuse from DV, even though there is evidence that this issue is linked.

When the drug addict or alcoholic receive treatment and dry out, the issues of behaviour that is associated with their drug taking or alcohol drinking behaviour, usually disappear, except in cases when they are self medicating for a mental illness.

We do not need another inquiry, because the evidence that is needed is already there, however what is needed is a monumental shift in the attitude and beliefs of society and DV advocates.

It is no good punishing the perpetrators after the fact, it is much better to teach people the skills to deal with situations before they escalate to violence.

However there will always be a group that not a single method will make any difference, the really evil people, the sociopath and psychopaths.

Or people with personality disorders.

I don't agree totally with your views WollyB.
If alcohol and/or drugs were the only precursor to violence, then wouldn't all people who over-indulged in these substances be more aggressive and violent than usual?
But they don't do they?

There must be something else involved that leads to some intoxicated people displaying extreme violence, while others don't.
And then there are those who don't need alcohol or drugs on board at all to become violent.

Is it their upbringing and environment?
Is it something they are born with?
Is it based on their mental health issues?
Is it cultural?
Is it worse in men or women?
Is it age related, maybe hormones?

I don't believe enough has been done to determine these issues, and to show us all once for all, what can be done to stop the rage In our society, or at least lessen it.

However, I wonder whether everyone would agree with the findings of such studies anyway, given the suspicion many people feel about 'academics' , or about the gender of those conducting the studies, or about 'special interests' groups?
Somehow, I don't think so....

WollyB and Roscop

'This makes me wonder what is the real reason that these groups upset you so much?'

Shouldn't you be asking yourselves why feminists and feminism upset YOU so much? The fear, loathing and hatred of feminism that manifests itself on this and many other public forums is way, WAY out of proportion to anything that feminists do, say or write.

I have always believed that the reason for this grossly disproportionate hatred of feminism is that men and male-identified women fear the possibility of women getting too much power. This kind of fear is often directed at any group that challenges the status quo - but feminism gets much more than its fair share.

I also have the theory that there is a great deal of sexual guilt in men, which in turn drives so much extreme anti-feminism. Men are conditioned by the culture to feel that they are sexually predatory and that their sexual lust is always bubbling away under the surface. This makes men fearful that their sexuality could easily get out of control.

When feminists talk of male sexism, rape and the sexualisation of women by the culture, this triggers powerful sexual guilt in men - which drives their anti-feminist hostility.

As for MRM groups, I am highly critical of these groups as they have manifested over the last 20 years. Their entire focus is on spreading bigotry and disinformation regarding feminism and fictitious female bias in the Family Court and AVO systems, as well as phoney research regarding female domestic violence.

The MRM groups that started in the 1980s were very different. Their focus was on consciousness-raising about the negative effects of the patriarchy on men's lives. I knew several men who ran these groups and/or participated in them. They had my utmost respect. However, these groups were superseded by the anti-feminist backlash and gradually morphed into the misogynist, anger-filled supremacist MRM industry we have today.

Suse

All those questions have been answered in many studies over several decades.

The reasons lie within the kind of society we have - one that is based largely on social injustice, and held in place by a system of structurally embedded violence.

The more social injustice there is in a society - between classes, genders, races, countries, minorities and majorities, and also between humans and nature - the more violence there is.

Susieonline, do not need alcohol or drugs to become violent, you then outlined what could be violence within a lot of people both male and female, I do agree with you on those points, mental conditions can make people violent, they do not mean to become violent but owing to an alteration of thoughts in the brain this can happen, depression can trigger violence. in a lot of cases this is the main problem, I really do not think the feminist angle comes into what makes men violent, most men couldn't care less about that, including myself, but mental problems a definate yes.