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David Hicks and the death of a legal system : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 20/2/2015

Australians tend to demonise or sanctify their legal villains, casting a social net around them that either protects, or asphyxiates them.

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Craig with the vomit you spit out I am very pleased not to have your endorsement. At least Foxy tries to hide her hatred (albiet not very well).
Posted by runner, Saturday, 21 February 2015 4:55:49 PM
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Dear runner,

There's enough hatred in the world without
any of us having to add to it.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 21 February 2015 6:02:36 PM
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This story is just like the Lindy Chamberland case of trial/conviction by the media and public without any evidence.We have a plethora of armchair experts who believe the media lies.
http://thejusticecampaign.org/?page_id=14
Posted by Arjay, Saturday, 21 February 2015 10:20:22 PM
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Now let's see.

Arjay and Yebiga are obviously loony tunes. Craig Minns can't do anything but scream abuse. That only leaves Foxy as the one trendy to post an almost intelligent reply on this topic.

OK Foxy, taking your points in order.

Amnesty International's opinion that David Hicks was illegally imprisoned is worthless, because every sane person (you and your peer group excluded) knows that enemy fighters captured on a battlefield can be detained as long as hostilities persist.

Anthony Loewenstein's opinion is wrong for the same reason.

Miranda Divine was entirely correct to point out that people who put bombs in commercial airliners, bomb nightclubs full of Aussies, shoot schoolgirls for daring to go to school, rape little girl schoolgirls in Beslan before massacring them, abduct and rape hundreds of schoolgirls in Nigeria, behead on Yutube journalists and aid workers for publicity, and enslave captured Christian women, advertise them for sale, and mass rape them, hardly deserve any decent treatment themselves when captured.

Miranda Divine is self evidently correct in calling David Hicks "a well trained terrorist." He wasn't in Afghanistan to admire the Babiyan Buddhas. Don't ask me why he wasn't charged with treason and executed.

Loewenstein and the US chief Military Prosecutor are obviously wrong when they said that Hick's detention was to save the Howard government embarrassment. Your premise suggests that most Australians regarded Hick's jailing with horror. Maybe within your own peculiar peer group it did. But amongst normal people we were glad that terrorist Hicks was incarcerated and hoped that the yanks kicked the shiit out of him.
Posted by LEGO, Sunday, 22 February 2015 6:28:34 AM
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To believe 9/11 occurred as reported requires us to believe the US intelligence and the pentagon defense system operatives are akin to the bumbling agents on the 1960s TV series Get Smart.

But this al quiada mob has shown themselves to be anything but intelligent in executing 9/11 and the 14 years since

A complex modern society like ours requires everyone to behave within certain civil parameters to function - this is why it's called civilisation. Every thing is finely tuned to operate efficiently: electricity grids, water gas grids, public transport grids, schools,hospitals , sporting venues....the entire system of supply and delivery is so complex and so fragile that it requires minimal force at strategic weak points to stop life as we know it. Consider the impact of a major road suddenly closed during peak hour
The disruption and frustration it causes

A truly smart, funded entity determined to destroy "our way of life" would not bother with hijacking planes, or even getting on a plane, why take the risk of going thru a highly controlled environment when you are free to move thru the inside of entire country. Why bother with guns when you just look like a nut and will end up dead. Mere hi jinx pranks would increase the cost of operating our economy so much that our way of life would immediately change.

This is why I believe this entire war on terror is a tragic charade. An invisible and incompetent enemy, allowing it's authors to create intermittent events which threaten nothing serious but permit the authors to manipulate the western public to whatever end they choose - namely bombing and looting another country. USA Fukyeah.
Posted by YEBIGA, Sunday, 22 February 2015 10:37:39 AM
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Dear LEGO,

Prime Minister John Howard, Attorney General
Philip Ruddock and Foreign Affairs Minster Downer were
warned by a panel of experts from Australia that the
David Hicks case should not have been allowed to proceed.

David Hicks did not fight against Australian or US troops.
There were no Coalition
forces on the ground in Kunduz at the time David Hicks
was there. David Hicks did not fire one shot outside of
military training in Afghanistan - this was acknowledged by
the US. David Hicks did not at any point engage foreign
soldiers in combat. David Hicks was not caught fighting
with al-Qaeda. He was taken at a taxi stand whilst trying
to come back home to Australia by the Northern Alliance
(Afghan forces). He was sold to the US Military for approx.
US $1,000.

The infamous photographs of David taken with an unloaded RPG
were taken in Albania when he was training with the Kosovo
Liberation Army under NATO. Even in the American created
charges - there has never been an allegation that David
Hicks engaged in a violent act against any person.
There has never been any evidence to the contrary.

David Hicks did not receive any "terrorist training."
In fact several independent sources,
including members of the Australian military, have
confirmed that the training David Hicks received was basic
standard military training, poor in quality to that
received by our Australian troops.

David Hicks spent nearly six years in Guantanamo where he
was tortured and abused. His treatment by our Government and
at the hands of the US was not justified. In 2007 former PM
John Howard asked the US to manage the Hicks case.
Colonel Morris Davis, the former Chief Prosecutor of Military
Commissions told US Journalist Jason Leopold in 2011 that he
had concerns about the Bush Administration charging Hicks.

There was "no doubt in my mind," Davis added that "this issue
was an accommodation to help Howard by making the David
Hicks case go away (in an election year)." And John Howard
should publicly apologise of selling out an Australian
citizen for political gain.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 22 February 2015 10:47:52 AM
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