well said Suseonline...SPQR answer that yourself we have a lot of moderate Christians out there that still "follow" a rather evil book not far removed from the Koran?

The internet is a great tool do a bit of research on some of the Christian right wing groups. Their views are pretty much inline with Islamic ring wingers. The key difference is they do not have board support, in the west. They do and are starting to behave in similar ways again elsewhere often with the backing of friends in the bible belt.

Is Mise is clearly Runners new handle.

Jay Of Melbourne must be another of Runners alter-ego's.

Susie

Didn't you know that Muslims believe in Mohammed and the Koran? Derr.

What did Jesus say when they asked him whether they should stone the adulteress?

'What did Jesus say when they asked him whether they should stone the adulteress?'

yep we know what He said Jardine although I suspect a highly trained secular high priest would say go and do it again for all men are xxx anyway. It is all about me and me.

Cobber,
Even though you don't know what you're talking about you've hit on something interesting.
Yes indeed, elements the "right" are forming alliances with Muslims, though you're wrong about Christians, Christianity is irredeemably Liberal.
The way people like me see the "struggle"for Australia is that it's at least a four way contest between neo liberals, the radical right, Islam and the Chinese colonists, what we hope to do is convince people to pick a side.

Keith Suter's statement that "most Muslims have managed to reconcile their faith with the modern world" competes with French President Francios Holland's statement that the Charlie Hedbo attack "had nothing to do with Islam", for the trophy the most bizarre statement that is contrary to self evident reality.

Keith is putting forward the oft repeated refrain that most Muslims are "moderate" and it is just a few hotheads who are giving these "moderates" a bad name. If Muslim "moderates" exist, Keith, could you please tell us what they believe in? Are "moderate" Muslims tolerant of homosexuality? Do they think that Muslims who want to become Christians or Buddhists should not be murdered? Do they think that the Prophet can be mocked? Do they disprove of Sharia Law? Do the think that raped women are the victims who should not be punished?

Well, if "moderate" Muslims are in the majority, how come all 57 Muslim states in the world reject all of these values? Name one "moderate" Muslim country which approves of these values.

If "moderate" Muslims are the majority in western countries, how is it that the Fatwa on Salmon Rushdie by Iran's Ayatollah Khomeini was not laughed off by the British Muslims? Why did the various representatives of British Muslim associations all state that not only should Rushdie be killed, they even hoped that they themselves could have the honour of murdering him themselves? That even applied to Yusaf Islam, formerly the pop star Cat Stevens, who was once famous for writing pop songs full of peace, love and mung beans.

If France has to mobilise 20,000 soldiers and paramilitaries to stop "French" Muslims from slaughtering "French" Jews, then how can you possibly say that France does not have a problem with the majority of it's Muslims? 80% of the children in French schools with overwhelming Muslim infestation refused today to observe a minutes silence for the victims of the Charlie Hedbo massacre.

But it is crucial for the advocates of multiculturalism to ignore the elephant in the room.