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Making sense of Islamicist violence: the big picture : Comments

By Keith Suter, published 14/1/2015

There is a struggle for the soul of Islam. How is Islam to be reconciled with the modern world?

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‘morning R0bert,

Hear, hear, well said, thoughtful post.

You say this is your “big picture”? You wouldn’t know a big picture if you stepped on it and it hit you in the face.

Big pictures start at the top not at the bottom. Every analytical process on the planet starts, like Kepner Tregoe etc., at the top. Every issue is like a pyramid, the top has the few big issues, the base, as it spreads out contains the content. This starting at the bottom is very convenient for those determined to deconstruct issues rather than analyze them.

Starting at the bottom rather than the top is great if you want to express your “I think” mantra. As I said earlier,

<<The Political/Media group continues to deconstruct Islam into component parts in order to trivialize its impact. They use relativism to compare Islam with other religions, historical despotic regimes and the good guys vs. bad guys within Islam itself.>>

When you can work upwards and away from content and address the issue of 469,000 deaths at the hands of Islam, aided and abetted by Western PC, you will have arrived.

In the meantime please continue with your version of the “big picture” that is alien to those capable of original thought.

If C4 were brains, you wouldn’t create enough “bang” to raise your eyebrows!
Posted by spindoc, Sunday, 18 January 2015 6:29:07 PM
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So spindoc can you try to articulate just what you disagree with and why? Do you have any objections that can actually be explained is flaming me all you have?

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Sunday, 18 January 2015 6:44:44 PM
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Robert,
Fair points but Atlanticism or neo Liberalism or globalism, whatever you want to call it has nothing to offer anyone, Islam offers everything people want and need and then some.
Islam is however an Arab racial supremacist movement and it's Arabic followers do see themselves as superior to others, a master race if you will:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2941401/posts
When idealogues talk about a master race they don't mean it in the sense that Arabs are to be overlords, rather Mohammed is the archetype, he's "Islamic Man" in the same way that "Soviet Man" and "Aryan" man were the archetypes for 20th century leftists.

Musa Cerantonio explains to John Safran that White converts are highly prized by Arab propagandists and that racism is part of the Sunni Arab movements:
http://www.theage.com.au/good-weekend/musa-cerantonio-muslim-convert-and-radical-supporter-of-islamic-state-20150116-121c8s.html

The 'white widow': a Muslim convert 'rebel in search of a cause'?
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/27/white-widow-muslim-samantha-ewthwaite

Anti Racists might find some allies in radical Islam but they'd have a fight on their hands trying to "reform" the faith.
Racism In Islaam: Message To The Sunni World :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2qkoISZogo
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Sunday, 18 January 2015 7:43:46 PM
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‘morning R0bert,

<<So spindoc can you try to articulate just what you disagree with and why? Do you have any objections that can actually be explained is flaming me all you have? >>

Certainly R0bert, only too happy to help out. Firstly, you might want to increase your intellectual height so that things don’t keep going “over your head”. You can do this by standing on a chair, your wife’s’ sewing box or the kids toy box.

Then you can “read” the original article that started this thread followed by;

Posted by spindoc, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 12:30:38 PM
Posted by spindoc, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 12:31:18 PM
Posted by spindoc, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 12:31:18 PM
Posted by spindoc, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 12:32:48 PM
Posted by spindoc, Thursday, 15 January 2015 4:48:36 PM
Posted by spindoc, Friday, 16 January 2015 7:57:22 AM
Posted by spindoc, Sunday, 18 January 2015 10:15:21 AM
Posted by spindoc, Sunday, 18 January 2015 6:29:07 PM

Then you could read some of the other comments on this thread so that you can avoid the embarrassment of posting the irrelevant and out of context tosh you puke onto threads.

Then we can address the issues so close to your ideological heart. Such things as; How do you justify appeasing an ideology that has slaughtered 460,000 humans since 2001? What is it about Islam that appeals to you? Why do you avoid the big picture issues whilst asserting you have the “big picture” perspective? Why do you “borrow” the opinions of others? When are you going to develop an opinion of your own? Do you agree that appeasement by the left has caused the Islamic slaughter we are now experiencing in Western Democracies? Why are the left of politics “targeting” our own for Islamic terrorists to attack? Does this bother you?

Ah well, so many questions and so few answers. Still, articulating these questions seems to have blown your feeble mind, God knows what trying to find any answers might do to the space between your ears?

Can I “articulate”? Yep!

Can you answer? Nope!
Posted by spindoc, Sunday, 18 January 2015 9:05:22 PM
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Jay said;
Islam is however an Arab racial supremacist movement and it's Arabic
followers do see themselves as superior to others, a master race if you will:

Not really, not while they continue to marry their cousins.
Why is it do you think that Arab countries are such a mess ?
It is only the income from oil that has enabled the region to make
a veneer of progress. Ultimately they will be dependant on the Jazer
tax but as those being taxed convert or depart they are then
dependant on their own intellectual resources.

Then I see most Arab countries becoming failed states.
Already we see a few examples, Somalia, Yemen, Afghanistan, Egypt, Libya.
That will be the fate of all Arab states and some other islamic states
such as Indonesia and Malaysia because they are not Arab might not
fail like the Arabs but as the oil income declines may have a very
difficult time.

The problem the west will face is what to do about them ?
Yhe "progressives" (Hell I hate that word) will want to intervene
and "help" them. The best we can do at that time will be to let them
stew in their own juice.
It is possible enough of them will realise the Koran is wrong and
marriage with cousins is wrong. If the practise was widely banned
it would take generations for the effects to be diluted.

Hopefully then they would no longer have such bizarre behaviors.
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 18 January 2015 9:46:37 PM
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Baz just in case you have forgotten, a present day Queen whose consort is a close relative,is not of the Koran variety, it takes all sorts of people to make the world go around, even fathers knocking off daughters, strange world isn't it. eh, a hole is a hole regardless of what you believe in
Posted by Ojnab, Sunday, 18 January 2015 10:30:05 PM
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