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Making sense of Islamicist violence: the big picture : Comments

By Keith Suter, published 14/1/2015

There is a struggle for the soul of Islam. How is Islam to be reconciled with the modern world?

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Islam is continuing on as it always has done.
Just have a read of this link;

http://tinyurl.com/18r

In this context makes the excuser's argument the Christians and Hitler
were just as bad look absolutely pathetic.
How long before France looks like Northern Nigeria with its own Boko Haram ?
Especially have a look at India's history with Islam, puts in context
the India Pakistan troubles.
Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 17 January 2015 9:46:55 PM
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Runner, Jay et al,

Please check out my posts in "Its Islam, not Islamism" at bottom.

I have read this before Constance. It just shows that people are willfully ignorant. Then again the denial of the adamic nature displays a greater ignorance. That is why every day some fool acts in shock/horror when an islamist does what they have been doing in Israel and all over the world for 1400 years.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 17 January 2015 11:01:50 PM
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Constance,

"I still can't believe the spineless worms who live among us. Their ignorance and dishonesty is vile. They should all be held for treason. We really are living in a Dark Age. All over their incredibly stupid ideology."

Yes indeed - I am convinced most of those you allude to are driven by a blind hate of Western systems/values and side with Islam out of spite.
Posted by SPQR, Sunday, 18 January 2015 6:15:21 AM
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Constance,
Like others here, I have read that list before but it is worthy of posting again from time to time. To remind others of what sort of a future we face.

"I still can't believe the spineless worms who live among us. Their ignorance and dishonesty is vile. They should all be held for treason. We really are living in a Dark Age. All over their incredibly stupid ideology."

I took it you were mainly referring to our politicians and I would wholeheartedly agree. They cannot be so blind that they can't see the obvious, they simply ignore it and hope it will just go away.

We really are in desperate need of polys with spine and common sence.
Posted by Banjo, Sunday, 18 January 2015 8:26:34 AM
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‘morning Keith,

Busy as you and many others like you may be, in sorting out the “Soul of Islam”, does anyone want to discuss the enormity of what they are trying to appease?

The Institute for Economics and Peace reports 24,866 Islamic Terror attacks between 9/11 and the end of 2013. At least 306,381 people were killed or critically injured. This includes 126,165 killed and 180,216 critically injured.

The Global Terrorism Index shows a 61% increase from 2012 to 2013, (11,133 deaths to 17,958 deaths), and that “extreme interpretations of Wahhabi Islam are the key commonality.”

How might things look for 2014? I have reproduced statistics for the months of Jan/July/Nov. 2014.

Research by the BBC and Kings College shows that for the month of November 2014 alone there were 664 Islamic Jihad attacks across 14 countries with 5,042 deaths.

In January, 2014 there were 239 attacks, in 23 countries with 1,413 dead and 2,162 critically injured.

In July 7 to August 8, 2014, statistics show there were 235 attacks, 2,750 deaths and 8,600 injured.

Averaging the figures for these months and multiplying by 12, we arrive at a projected 4,548 attacks and 36,819 deaths. This would be an increase from 2013 to 2014 of over 100%.

The GTI report concludes that “Over the 2012/2013 period, the number of countries that experienced more than 50 deaths rose from 15 to 24. This highlights that not only is the intensity of terrorism increasing, its breadth is increasing as well.”

Before the PC “relativists” get too carried away with “Ah well there are lots of other groups committing terror attacks, it’s not just Islam”.

The National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC) states that of the 12,533 terrorism-related deaths worldwide (2011), there were only 170 by a category described as “other”, and 77 by “Neo-Nazi/Fascist/White Supremacist” groups.

Interestingly the NCTC records separately the 1,926 terror attacks by “secular/political/anarchists” which were primarily identified as Marxist, Communist, Socialist sympathizers (Progressives).

Now who would have thought that the Leftwing terrorists would out perform the “Neo-Nazi/Fascist/White Supremacist” groups the Progressives so love to blame?
Posted by spindoc, Sunday, 18 January 2015 10:15:21 AM
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Well Spindoc the figures you have relayed plus those in my last post
makes me wonder what effect will the coming economic crash have on all this ?

That there is a crash coming seems certain, even our present
government thinks so if you read between the lines.
Will the terrorists have access to enough money and have the ability
to move around the world as they have ?

Saudi Arabia with low economic activity meaning low oil consumption
will be in economic straits as they carry a lot of do nothing people
on welfare and when that stops ?
Will the ISIS and its hangers on turn inwards on Arab governments ?

These are critical questions that think tanks need to explore.
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 18 January 2015 10:51:17 AM
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