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Exaggerating the terror genie: reflections on a fake sheik : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 17/12/2014

While the Sydney holdup says absolutely nothing about a terror 'wave', it is being read as part of a current, with Australia being caught in it.

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'Do we ask all other violent murderers and rapists their religion?'
No I dont imagine we do. And in most cases all the other violent murderers and rapists have a nationality, a colour, a size and shape. Their religion largely would be irrelevant because they dont 'define themselves by their religion' nor would they be very likely to be displaying the flag of their denomination intending to instill fear. Most of us occasionally might have a Jehova's witness 'watchtower' pushed onto us, and even engage in discussion on differing opinions. Agree to disagree and say your goodbyes, and that is about as intimidated or threatened anyone should have to feel by anothers religious belief.
So this fanatical, women hating, Australian hating sadistic pig, who, had he not been allowed into Australia all those years ago, would not have inflicted himself on his victims here and would probably still be paying for his crimes he committed in Iran before fleeing.
Our authorities need to keep up, tighten the regulations and know all they possibly can about who they are allowing in. Go visit Middle Eastern communities, experience first hand, then decide who the innocent are that need protection and asylum.
Posted by jodelie, Thursday, 18 December 2014 8:58:04 AM
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Have it your way Susie. Implicit in your criticism is the claim that what happened in Endeavour Hills and now Sydney would have happened anyway, without incitement by ISIS. That gives you the right to label me a bigot?

You throw that label around a bit much in your posts, attributing bigotry to anybody not sharing your rosey interpretations.

Perhaps it was my suggestion of a pledge to secularism that you object to, pie in the sky as it may seem? I see it as a way for Australian Muslims to formally peel away from the murderous aspects of their holy book in the eyes of the wider community, showing their solidarity with the rest of Australia rather than on a case by case basis with each atrocity. I see it as a call to followers to actively participate in the policing of terror. I see it as a formal proclamation that will depolarize sentiment towards Islam in Australia which is growing with each atrocity, and thwarted atrocity. I see it as a check on all religions with supremacist aspirations in this country, Christianity included. There are many in our community who would like Australia to be a theocracy rather than a secularist democracy.

I do not expect "bomb-throwing mad Muslims around every corner", but further atrocities will increase the number of people that do, regardless of whether you think that should be. Our police have been highly successful in their thwarting operations and we can only hope they continue to be so, necessitating whole-hearted support from the Muslim community.
Posted by Luciferase, Thursday, 18 December 2014 10:51:16 AM
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The Legend of the Lone Wolf Terrorist

http://pjmedia.com/michaelledeen/2014/10/25/the-legend-of-the-lone-wolf-terrorist/?print=1
http://lopez.pundicity.com/15556/jihad-terrorism

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/28/us/oklahoma-beheading/
and Boston etc.

http://therightscoop.com/brigitte-gabriel-gives-fantastic-answer-to-muslim-woman-claiming-all-muslims-are-portrayed-badly/
Posted by Constance, Thursday, 18 December 2014 11:08:37 AM
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Luciferase, it is one thing restricting immigration to Australia by trying to ensure no criminals or other unsavory characters can be admitted, and I am all in favour of that.

It is quite another to suggest we refuse entry to people from certain countries, cultures or religions, unless they have already individually shown they are not suitable for Australia.
We did not restrict all immigration from Ireland when the IRA were bombing all and sundry in Northern Ireland and England.

If one wants to restrict all people from any of these Muslim groups, then that is racism, pure and simple.
That is my opinion, like it or not.
Posted by Suseonline, Thursday, 18 December 2014 11:16:44 AM
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'If one wants to restrict all people from any of these Muslim groups, then that is racism, pure and simple.
That is my opinion, like it or not.'

Yep Susie as naive and foolish as it is like it or not.

btw have you not learn't yet that Muslims are not a race.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 18 December 2014 12:20:58 PM
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Still denying we have been jihaded, Susie. Do you completely deny the role of ISIS in the Endeavour Hills and Sydney attacks? If so, put up. The perpetrators said what they were going to do and their extremist basis for doing it, then they did it.

Re immigration, Islam is a religion for some, and an ideology bent upon our destruction for others. Distinguishing these from each other is extremely difficult given they don't necessarily self-identify, but we should do our absoluteutmost to weed out the latter, including deporting those whose views become manifest after settling.

I'm not calling for blocking immigration to Muslims, especially given the majority of asylum seekers are Muslim. I think I am ideologist rather than racist. The argument is with ideology, not race, and I am prejudiced against those with an ideology bent upon destroying us. Call me old fashioned.
Posted by Luciferase, Thursday, 18 December 2014 1:53:17 PM
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