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Allah the Compassionate and Merciful : Comments

By Valerie Yule, published 21/11/2014

Allah is the Compassionate, the Merciful. This description occurs everywhere, and is even shouted by the unmerciful and uncompassionate jihadis.

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Dear Grateful,

Please allow me to be upfront:

I have a great interest in restoring and establishing the innocence and reputation of just one man: Muhammad the prophet, peace be upon him.

All other related issues, such as the innocence and reputation (or otherwise) of historical and contemporary Muslims in general and/or of their internal divisions, are simply beyond my sphere of interest: not that it's unimportant or uninteresting, but I personally cannot afford the time to go into all that just for the sake of general knowledge.

Given that as a Muslim, you are interested (so I assume) in restoring the innocence and reputation of Muslims in general; or at least of some of the Muslim divisions/denominations, you could well ask "Why should I help Yuyutsu? What if I could only demonstrate that Muhammad, peace be upon him, was innocent and peaceful, but am unable to demonstrate that any contemporary Muslims are?".

All I could reply is, that if it so occurs that you can only establish the proven innocence and non-violent reputation (of which I am privately convinced, but have no generally-accepted evidence) of Muhammad, peace be upon him, but not of Muslims in general or any divisions thereof, then publishing this information should cause all lovers of Muhammad to change their violent ways (those who are already violent) or drop their passive/potential support to violence otherwise. I think this would be a great outcome.

Can you help me?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 28 November 2014 10:33:23 AM
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Responding to Loudmouth on behalf of the Moslem cult, Grateful trotted out one of the many weasellings-out peddled by Moslems and non-Moslem apologists to dismiss accounts of the depredations towards humans in their power, of Moslems pursuing Islamic beliefs, in the absence (even if temporary) of imposed restraints. A bit like the way a visit to Poland in 1942 would show the real message of Mein Kampf. Grateful wrote:

“I suppose another point to make about your list of crimes, is that have you thought of making a list of similar crimes perpetrated against Muslims?”

OK, how many bombs did the girls kidnapped in their Nigerian school to be enslaved, or the Yazidis hounded in their mountain refuge, or victims of Saudi Arabia’s religious thought police dragged to a public square in Riyadh to have their heads cut off, or Malala Yousafzai in the crosshairs of a Moslem hero’s rifle, drop on Moslems? How many rockets did they fire at them? It’s such disgusting crimes against people who haven’t an imperialist bone in their bodies that makes decent people, when they can see through the curtain of taqiyya and abrogation, despise Islam and its mission to enslave the non-gullible (aka infidels) with its Sharia cult.

The whole racket started as other supremacist tyrannies have started, with a murderous “prophet” with dreams of conquest and enslavement lying about a spook in the sky who had supposedly dictated his “Mein Kampf” to him.

I made the point earlier that Islam, the true Islam, is what Islam does when free of restraints. Our Moslem’s only response was a content-free, reasoning-free sneer.

I wonder if he’ll have a more substantial response to Yuyutsu’s request for demonstrable evidence that the progenitor Mohammed was innocent and peaceful?
Posted by EmperorJulian, Saturday, 29 November 2014 1:40:12 AM
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Hi Jules,

In the past day or so, the Taliban have killed six random people in one attack; Boko Haram is accused of killing between fifty and one hundred and twenty random worshippers in explosions in a mosque in Kano, after the Emir there condemned Boko Haram - Muslims killing Muslims randomly. Probably today, there will be other random attacks in Baghdad or Kirkuk or Nairobi or Sana'a or Kano or Mogadishu.

Ransom killings this week by the US:

* beheadings of non-American children: 0

* kidnapping, rape and enslavement of non-American women: 0

* shooting of captured non-American soldiers: 0

* cutting the throats of random non-American fishermen: 0

Yes, Grateful, it's not really a close contest, is it ?

I wonder if the Islamo-fascists especially target Muslims who criticise Islamo-fascism. And who does the dhimmi-'Left' aim THEIR criticisms at - the Islamo-fascists or the 'moderate' Muslims ?

And is it a sign of the weakening, or unravelling, of the Islamo-fascist cause when they have to resort to terrorising other Muslims by blowing up mosques ? Should the dhimmi-'Left' lice start looking for different scalps to infest, different masters ?

No, most likely not. Yet.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Saturday, 29 November 2014 11:54:12 AM
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Loudmouth and Jules
Let's test your view of Islam with a small exercise. Reconcile your depiction of Islam with the follow events in Nigeria
http://www.smh.com.au/world/at-least-120-dead-in-nigeria-mosque-attack-20141128-11wk58.html
And try to write in a more polite manner.
Posted by grateful, Saturday, 29 November 2014 1:52:57 PM
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Loudmouth you write
"In the past day or so, the Taliban have killed six random people in one attack; Boko Haram is accused of killing between fifty and one hundred and twenty random worshippers in explosions in a mosque in Kano, after the Emir there condemned Boko Haram - Muslims killing Muslims randomly. Probably today, there will be other random attacks in Baghdad or Kirkuk or Nairobi or Sana'a or Kano or Mogadishu."

When the terrorists kill Muslims you show no compassion for the victims or interest in why they are being targeted. You explain it as Muslims randomly killing Muslims. To actually admit that the victims are victims just like other non Muslim victims would completely undermine your personal conviction that our religion is fascist. Not only are these Muslims victims of adherents of an extremist ideology but they are tainted by you as adherents of this pervert ideology.
It pointless trying to use reason in the face of such entrench bigitory. Only you can deal with this issue. I sincerely wish you success.
Posted by grateful, Saturday, 29 November 2014 2:18:09 PM
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No problem reconciling my depiction of Islam with the event in Nigeria. An evil cult doing evil in service to Allah against people in its power. Islam is as Islam does. The worshippers were victims of Islam in two ways - firstly because of their indoctrination and secondly because of their murder at the hands of scum that took their religion more seriously than the worshippers did and acted on it.

Since the days of the murdering "prophet" the world has seen a vast Enlightenment in morality, philosophy, science, justice and human rights. At their own choosing, the Enlightenment is not available to those indoctrinated in a mission to enforce the superstitions and the diktats of the Moslem cult or any other theocratic cult on human beings whether they identify as believers or not. Islam can't embrace the Enlightenment as it can't renounce Sharia and jihad.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Saturday, 29 November 2014 4:40:29 PM
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