LOL...what a rant!
I think with some people there are personal issues playing out. Not the most intellectually engaging conversation I've had. Take care

So this past week:

* a couple of suicide bombers in northern Nigeria, killing eighty random people in a market-place;

* 28 people taken off a bus in Kenya and shot;

* more than fifty fisherman on Lake Chad (north-eastern Nigeria) captured and had their throats cut;

* a bombing in eastern Afghanistan, with fifty-odd killed;

* Ismaili Muslims beheaded by IS in Syria;

* a couple of men beheaded on suspicion of being gay;

* fifty-odd tribesmen lined up and shot near the Syria-Iraq border.

Common factor ? Islam, the religion of peace and love.

So what will it be this coming week ? More of the same ?

What does it all mean ? A reliance on terror as a means to bring people into line, to make them submit to the religion of peace.

Call me an Islamophobe IF this IS Islam, but the sooner this scourge is wiped out, the better. Is it Islam, Grateful, or some perversion of it ?

Joe

Loadmouth,

Clearly it is a scourge that needs to be wiped out and a perversion of Traditional Islam. You will find agreement with your views in the following article: "Making the World Safe for Terrorism" written 30 September 2001 (Sh Nuh Ha Min Keller): http://untotheone.com/articles/articles-by-sheikh-nuh/making-the-world-safe-for-terrorism/

What I thought was a very accurate piece of investigative reporting into the ideological roots of this movement was produced by RN's Rear Vision program: "The history of Saudi Arabian links with Islamic extremism" (22 Oct 2014) http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/rearvision/5830592

Also see the article by David Gardner of the Financial Times, "Saudis have lost the right to take Sunni leadership" (August 7, 2014): http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ab1b61c4-1cb6-11e4-b4c7-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3KHGSN7jX

But you don't need to read or listen to any of these to see that this movement is a perversion of Islam. Just ask: Who are they are killing and what are they destroying? The answer is Muslims, christians, Yazizi's, anyone who opposes their ideology. what are they destroying: shrines of Muslims, Christians, etc..where are they doing it? In the heart of the Muslim lands! and this is only possible if these communities had survived Muslim rule for the previous 1400 years. If ISIS is representative of traditional Islam then these communities would would have been annihilate long ago.

It makes no sense, for example, to say that the destruction of the Tomb of Jonah in June of this year represents an act sanctioned by Islam. ISIS is not invading non-Muslim territory by territory that has been Muslim for 1400 years!

So a little bit of clear logical reflection will tell you that ISIS must be a gross perversion of Islam. It is only with the Wahabbi movement that they were destroyed. The Wahabbi movement arose in the Arab peninsula in the early 1800s. their main victims have ben Muslim(http://www.sunnah.org/history/Wahabism_explained_Imam_Abu_Zahra.htm). Parallels are normally drawn between the Wahhabis and an earlier sect that had its origins at the time of the Prophet called the Kharijites. The Prophet had an encounter with one of them, condemned them and warned against them (http://www.sunnah.org/aqida/kharijites1.htm).

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A second point is illustrated by the role of the Kurds in the conflict with ISIS. The majority are sunni Muslim and there is a large population of shia. As we know the Yazidis and Zarostrians have lived within the Muslim community and its only with the advent of ISIS that they are being persecuted. So obviously ISIS, and the Wahabbi movement in general, are a perversion of Islam

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I suppose another point to make about your list of crimes, is that have you thought of making a list of similar crimes perpetrated against Muslims? Do you think the lack of any such reports in the mainstream media means that there are much fewer?

The questions are rhetorical of course but hopefully they stimulate some reflection on what the real agendas are.

How did ISIS get all those US made armaments? Who was sponsoring the smuggling of weapons from Libya? And how convenient is it for US geopolitical strategy to have a pretext to intervene militarily in Syria? Is it Afghanistan-revisited? And if so should the US be put on the US Department of State's list of states sponsoring terrorism?

As for those involved, the 'collateral damage', well they're just Muslim right...and you know.. well, the're always causing trouble anyway, and want to take over the world right? Not like the Kurds..go Kurds!

I guess what I'd really like is for people to stop being so gullible and reflect a bit. Most of us just want to get along and perhaps learn a bit from one another.

That's my rant for the day :-)
all the best

Hi Grateful,

You suggest " .... I suppose another point to make about your list of crimes, is that have you thought of making a list of similar crimes perpetrated against Muslims? Do you think the lack of any such reports in the mainstream media means that there are much fewer? "

Well, yeah !

Has the US beheaded any children lately ? Lines up captured soldiers and shot them ? Cut the throats of fifty-odd fishermen ? Raped and enslaved perhaps thousands of women ? Driven minorities up a mountain with the intention of exterminating them ?

When that happens, just let us know :)

Until then, stop trying to find excuses for atrocities.

Joe