Julian,

Non-Christian Church of Rome? Wow, heavy words, and another minute you espouse bringing back the Crusades who were apparently not Christian? Plus you think I’m a Commie. You are one confused and indoctrinated dude. And of course you have to detract from the real issue and bring up irrelevant contention and miss the whole point. All I’m doing is stating historical facts as history goes on being ignored. This does not help the real problem. Just goes to show you are unable to dispute facts, and demean possible resolutions on something so serious. Grow up.

It really is sad/e.

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Interesting you have not commented on Fr Samir’s analysis.

Hi Joe,

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50. 841 Muslim forces capture Bari (in Italy)

51. 846 Muslim raiders attack areas near Ostia and Rome. Some enter Rome and damage the Churches of St. Peter and St. Paul. The Leonine Wall is built to discourage further Attacks.

52. 849 Battle of Ostia (Christian Victory)

53. 850 Perfectus, a Christian priest in Muslim Cordova is executed ? one of the first of Many

54. 85111 young Christians are executed for insulting the Prophet Muhammed

55. 858 Muslim raiders attack Constantinople

56. 859 Muslim invaders capture Castrogiovanni slaughtering several thousand

57. 869 Arabs capture the island of Malta

58. 870 Muslim invaders capture Syracuse

59. 876 Muslims pillage Campagna in Italy

60. 879 The Seljuk Empire unites Mesapotamia and a large portion of Persia

61. 884 Muslims invading Italy burn the monastery of Monte Cassino to the ground

62. 900 The Fatimid Dynasty assumes control of Egypt

63. 902 The Muslim conquest of Sicily is completed when the Christian city of Toorminia is captured

64. 909 Sicily comes under control of the Fatimids

65. 909 The fatimid Dynasty assumes control of Egypt

66. 909 Muslims control all the passes in the Alps between France and Italy ? cutting off passage between the two countries

67. 920 Muslim forces cross the Pyrenees, enter Gascony and reach as far as the gates of Toulouse

68. 972 The Fatimids of Egypt conquer North Africa

69. 981 Ramiro III, king of Leon, is defeated at Rueda

70. 985 Al-Mansur Ibn Abi Aamir sacks Barcelona

71. 994 The monastery of Monte Cassino is destrpyed a second time by Arabs

72. 997 Under the leadership of Almanzar, Muslim forces march out of the city of Cordova and head north to capture Christian lands.

73. 997 Muslim forces burn Compostela to the ground

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74. 1004 Arab raiders sack the Italian city of Pisa

75. 1009 The Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem is destroyed by Muslim armies

76. 1009 Caliph Al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah orders the the Holy Sepulcher and all Christian buildings in Jerusalem be destroyed

77. 1012 Caliph Al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah orders the destruction of all Christian and Jewish houses of worship in his lands

78. 1012 Berber forces capture Cordova and order that half the population be executed

79. 1015 Arab Muslim forces conquer Sardinia

80. 1064 The Seljuk Turks conquer Christian Armenia

81. 1070 Seljuk Turks capture Jerusalem and begin persecuting Christian Pilgrims

82. 1071-1085 Seljuk Turks conquer most of Syria and Palestine

83. 1071 Battle of Manzikert

84. 1073 Seljuk Turks conquer Ankara

85. 1078 Seljuk Turks capture Nicaea

86. 1084 Seljuk Turks conquer Antioch

67. 1086 Battle of Zallaca

68. 1088 Patzinak Turks begin forming settlements between the Danube and the Balkans

69. 1090 Granada captured by Yusuf Ibn Tashfin

70. 1091 Cordova is captured by the Almoravids

Why are we always being told that the Crusaders were the aggressors when they were only defending?

Please watch the post I just sent of Dr Bill Warner on political Islam.
He mentions that when the Christian West lost their Classicalism and became hill billies they were then conquered by Islam. When weak, trouble follows. And this is what I see today. The West is in a psychological crisis as we are divisive.

Remember the Middle East was once just about all Christian including Algeria. Afghanistan even had a small Christian population but the Buddhists and Hindus were attacked and killed there by guess who. Taliban blowing up those Buddhists statues?

Today’s quote from Constance: “Non-Christian Church of Rome? Wow, heavy words, and another minute you espouse bringing back the Crusades who were apparently not Christian? Plus you think I’m a Commie. You are one confused and indoctrinated dude. And of course you have to detract from the real issue and bring up irrelevant contention and miss the whole point. All I’m doing is stating historical facts as history goes on being ignored. This does not help the real problem. Just goes to show you are unable to dispute facts, and demean possible resolutions on something so serious. Grow up.”

Last Monday’s quote from Constance: “Bring EXPULSIONS of the past back. The Catholic Church I'm sure had warranted reasons for doing so in order to PRESERVE and PROTECT themselves in getting rid of the rubbish”.

The Church of Rome was created in the fourth century between an ongoing imperial tyranny and some rogue sects in a deal which buried Christianity under the said imperial Roman tyranny. It has remained buried under one tyranny or another through centuries of murders of Jews and Christians (libelled as “heretics”), often by burning. Google Tyndall for openers. Or Inquisition maybe? Fortunately Christianity has managed to survive the Church of Rome and even to penetrate it. The reason this is fortunate is that elements of Christianity have had a positive moral influence through ages, even on the Church of Rome (buried under popery and black magic). Islam, in contrast, has no moral message.

By crusade against Islam I mean of course an unremitting moral, ideological crusade aimed at destroying Islam as an idea along with fascism, not the murderous military campaign (named “The Crusades”) which was against populations.

Julian,

Ha ha, , “Black Magic”, you get funnier by the minute. Tell me more about the black magic in the CC as I am not aware of this?

Are you a greedy corrupt banker? Usuary has brought about the debt ridden and slave-like society we currently live in, working our asses off and minimising dignity of the worker. Extreme capitalism that we have today and as life gets tougher. Thanks for that. And who is the only world leader who criticises all this greed, may you ask?

Looks like Peter Vexatious is right about lawyers and judges to allow people like Man Haron Monis to be let out on bail.
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What is it with literal interpretations by fundamentalists. I mean expulsions for people like Man Haron Monis, not the whole Muslim population. But I must say, I do quite like the perceived drama of an expulsion that would cause over-reactions from someone like yourself. Do you have any solutions to the Muslim problem?

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