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The Forum > Article Comments > Abbott will soon look like a genius for refusing to drag Australia to yet another climate fiasco > Comments

Abbott will soon look like a genius for refusing to drag Australia to yet another climate fiasco : Comments

By Tom Switzer, published 19/11/2014

Defensive, embarrassing, insular, cringeworthy – this is just a sampler of media comment on Abbott's performance at the G20.

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Poirot,

You published exactly the letter I was going to write, quoting the British Tories about our "eccentric" (very kind word) Prime Minister. I have come to the conclusion that Abbott will say and do anything if he (and Credlin) perceive that there is an electoral advantage in doing so. He finally twigged that the G20 had exposed him to be the scientific neanderthal that he is (along with his devout apologists on OLO) and calculated that he was losing votes rapidly. Hence the volte face on climate when he appeared with Hollande. I don't believe for a nanosecond that he has truly had a conversion. He is frankly no more than a grubby little opportunist.
Posted by James O'Neill, Friday, 21 November 2014 2:44:01 PM
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James O'Neill,

"..... I don't believe for a nanosecond that he has truly had a conversion. He is frankly no more than a grubby little opportunist."

Unfortunately for Australia, that sums up his recent shape-shifting perfectly.
Posted by Poirot, Friday, 21 November 2014 3:01:14 PM
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Dear Leo Lane,

Calling Carter a climate scientist is like calling an archaeologist who examines mummified remains a medical doctor.

If is just the personal study of AGW that makes the grade then you and I are just as much climate scientists as he is.

For you to keep propagating this myth is a demonstrable fraud of which you should be thoroughly ashamed.

As to the video it is 90 minutes long and I am not going to devote that much of my life to ingesting trash, but I will undertake to look at the part where he attempts to justify calling himself a climate scientist if you let me know how far into the clip I should look.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 21 November 2014 3:55:43 PM
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Steele, I suppose you mean that to apply to Mann as well as Carter? You have just stripped a leading fraud-backer of his self- assumed status of climate scientist. Mann’s qualification is the same as Carter’s

I cannot see that your analogy is appropriate.
A most important element in the understanding of climate is its history and development, as well as its current state. An anthropologist would have little understanding of human beings by simply making current observations without first studying the history and evolution of humans.

Carter’s clarification of his expertise is early in the video.
Posted by Leo Lane, Friday, 21 November 2014 9:55:40 PM
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and then we have Flannery who for years the warmist were happy to quote until making a fool of himself so many times.

btw any snow been sighted lately in US & Europe. What a joke. The only denialist are the supporters of totally false prophecy.
Posted by runner, Friday, 21 November 2014 10:35:48 PM
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Dear Leo Lane,

You said;

“Mann’s qualification is the same as Carter’s”.

You sir are are either joking or a deluded fool.

Mann - Attended Berkeley majoring in Physics and Mathematics. Received a Master of Science and Master of Philosophy in Physics.

Carter - Obtained a B.Sc. (Hons) in geology from the University of Otago in 1963

Mann - Joined Yale obtaining a Master of Philosophy in Geology and Geophysics with his research focussing on natural variability and climate oscillations. As a graduate student was part of the National Centre for Atmospheric Research's Global Statistics Report. While still working on his PhD he co-authored a paper "Global Interdecadal and Century-Scale Climate Oscillations During the Past Five Centuries" which was published by Nature in November 1995. Obtained his PhD in Geology and Geophysics with his thesis being 'A study of ocean-atmosphere interaction and low-frequency variability of the climate system' .

Carter - Completed a Ph.D. in paleontology from the University of Cambridge in 1968. His doctoral thesis was titled, The Functional Morphology of Bivalved Mollusca.

I could go on. Carter does not hold a candle to Mann either in academic qualifications, scientific publications or awards especially those directly relating To climatology. He is very much a minnow in comparison.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 21 November 2014 11:32:34 PM
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