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The Forum > Article Comments > Abbott will soon look like a genius for refusing to drag Australia to yet another climate fiasco > Comments

Abbott will soon look like a genius for refusing to drag Australia to yet another climate fiasco : Comments

By Tom Switzer, published 19/11/2014

Defensive, embarrassing, insular, cringeworthy – this is just a sampler of media comment on Abbott's performance at the G20.

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Yep it's been a fine earner for our & the US lefty conmen.

Obama has used the thing to transfer billions to his campaign backers, who went into the alternate energy industries.

A number received half a billion in taxpayer funds, before going bankrupt, but not before paying their founders handsomely from those public funds.

I wonder what steele's angle or con is. You can bet he has been making a quid courtesy of Rudd/Gillard & the taxpayer.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 11:54:58 PM
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Hasbeen,

"A number received half a billion in taxpayer funds..."

Really...in that case, I wonder how much the "righties" are pocketing considering the world spends $550 billion per year on fossil fuel subsidies.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/11/12/renewables-are-replacing-coal-just-not-fast-enough-to-save-the-planet/
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 20 November 2014 12:37:03 AM
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Steele’s assertions are without veracity. Having no science or rational basis for his position he reverts to the standard fraud-backer technique of baseless, scurrilous ad hominem.
An extract of Climate scientist Robert Carter’s background follows:
“Professor Bob Carter is an Emeritus Fellow at the Institute of Public Affairs (IPA, Melbourne). He is a palaeontologist, stratigrapher, marine geologist, environmental scientist and writer with more than 40 years professional experience, and holds degrees from the University of Otago (New Zealand) and the University of Cambridge (England). He has held tenured academic staff positions at the University of Otago (Dunedin) and James Cook University (Townsville), where he was Professor and Head of School of Earth Sciences between 1981 and 1999.
He is currently Chief Science Advisor to the International Climate Science Coalition and an Emeritus Fellow of the Institute of Public Affairs.

His articles have been published in Quadrant Magazine, The Australian, The Age, the Sydney Morning Herald, the Wellington Dominion Post, The Washington Times and the UK Sunday Telegraph. and a personal research publication record of more than 100 papers in international science journals on topics which include sea-level and climate change.

Bob Carter's current research on climate change, sea-level change and stratigraphy is based on field studies of Cenozoic sediments (last 65 million years) from the Southwest Pacific region, especially the Great Barrier Reef and New Zealand, and includes the analysis of marine sediment cores collected during ODP Leg 181.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~glrmc/
I have, on at least one other thread made Steele aware of Carter’s background, so Steele’s misinformation is deliberate.
Posted by Leo Lane, Thursday, 20 November 2014 1:07:54 AM
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Poirot

'And yet you'd ridicule climate scientists who've repeatedly stressed that global warming means an increased frequency of extreme and unusual weather events. '

and yet in the IPCC own words Poirot back in 2001

'. In its 2001 Third Assessment Report, for example, the IPCC claimed “milder winter temperatures will decrease heavy snowstorms.” '

the warmist really want it both or all ways because they just can't get it right.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 20 November 2014 2:25:21 AM
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just a little more history for you Poirot. I know its extremely embarassing for warmist but how else can we stop the ridiculous waste of money by the warmist industry. Abbott actually looks very bright by rejecting this nonsense.

'The same phenomenon took place in the United States just last winter. As record cold and snowfall was pummeling much of North America, warming theorists contradicted all of their previous forecasts and claimed that global warming was somehow to blame. Among them: White House Science “Czar” John Holdren. “A growing body of evidence suggests that the kind of extreme cold being experienced by much of the United States as we speak is a pattern we can expect to see with increasing frequency, as global warming continues,” he claimed.

'That assertion, of course, is exactly the opposite of what the UN “settled science” IPCC predicted in its 2001 global-warming report, which claimed that the planet would see “warmer winters and fewer cold spells, because of climate change.” Ironically, perhaps, Holdren warned decades ago that human CO2 emissions would lead to a billion deaths due to global warming-fueled global cooling — yes, cooling, which he said would lead to a new ice age by 2020.'

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/18888-embarrassing-predictions-haunt-the-global-warming-industry
Posted by runner, Thursday, 20 November 2014 2:30:00 AM
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This getting better and better, I'm not sure who is winning Runner or Leo.

Leo's suggesting the "Australian" newspaper is a science journal and the IPA is some sort of research body.

Or is it runner trying to pretend he understands anything in the IPPC report.

We all have to remember that most of the world climate scientist are lairs and are hiding the truth. Do not worry Runner and Leo are here to save us.

Next week they are going to cure cancer, cause you know it's only a scam to make doctors rich, and they'll do it while smoking 2 packs a day.
Posted by Cobber the hound, Thursday, 20 November 2014 7:14:42 AM
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