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Once more unto the breach : Comments

By Bruce Haigh, published 26/9/2014

Abbott imbued with the history and heraldry of mother England, and steeped in the tradition and atmosphere, if not the scholarship, of Oxford, appears inspired by Shakespeare's Henry V.

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Jay,

"This is a serious problem, a young man is dead by the hand of the political Police and we're left with the suspicions that he was being pressured to become an informant, or being blackmailed and bullied by the security services until he finally snapped and attacked them."

Not a serious problem at all, the problem was solved with one well placed shot, although there was probably a bit of luck involved as the shooter had just been stabbed.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 26 September 2014 11:36:52 PM
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Bruce Haigh's article is one where he apparently considers that nothing is worth fighting for. Everything is the fault of the Americans. And Iraq is the new Vietnam.

I totally reject Bruce's mindset.

The comparison between ISIS and Nazi Germany is so clear that it amazes me that any person like Bruce could call themselves a liberal and oppose meeting force with force. it is still "peace at any price", for you Appeasers eh Bruce?

The problem is not the USA it is Islam. ISIS is doing exactly what the Prophet ordered and did himself.

Vietnam was essentially an anti colonial war "where most of the people were yellow and the rest were red." This war in Iraq is essentially a civil war between the Sunnis and the Shiites with Christians, Kurds and Yazidis the main vicitms. The Sunnis probably now wish they had never heard of ISIS may even now prefer the Shiite government. They are probably sick and tired of being ruled by the village idiots with their Sharia Law because like most fanatics ISIS have no idea how to build anything, only destroy, destroy, and destroy. The Sunnis probably hope that the yanks came cove and save them from these religious morons.

The sensible thing to do would be for the Allied armies to drive ISIS back into Syria which should be very easy to do. These charactes are alright shooting unarmed civilians but they can not stand up to marines or an M1A1 tank. A political settlement can then be reached with the allies demanding that the Shiites stop persecuting the Sunnis and rule on behalf of all Iraqis. If the Shiite government in Baghdad blow it this time, then they are on their own.
Posted by LEGO, Saturday, 27 September 2014 6:25:15 AM
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"The comparison between ISIS and Nazi Germany is so clear ...."

Lol!

"....A political settlement can then be reached with the allies demanding that the Shiites stop persecuting the Sunnis and rule on behalf of all Iraqis....."

Double Lol!
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 27 September 2014 6:47:40 AM
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Lego,
I can't think of a single point on which to make the comparison between the NSDAP and ISIL, probably because I know quite a lot about both movements.
ISIL is more like a gang such as the L.A Crips or MS13, they take over a small patch of turf and control the population through fear while creating no go zones for the authorities.
ISIL is actually a confederation of such gangs who contract out work to still smaller gangs, for example they allegedly bought the hostage Sotloff from Syrian bandits for $25,000.
If the allies manage to knock off a few of their "Original Gangsters" ISIL will be bogged down in a series of turf wars between the up and coming bosses, that's what the strategy of fragmentation and degradation is all about.
Google the words "fourth generation warfare", this is what the allied commanders are taught these days, they know what they're doing.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 27 September 2014 7:54:13 AM
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What do you think would happen if we just all turned our backs, and let those nice people at Isil, have their way.
After all, someone has to pay a price for what Longshanks did to Wallace in Scotland, what the English did in Ireland, what the Romans did to the Greeks, and what the Greeks did in Egypt and Persia. Not to mention the Indian wars!
Or the bloody civil war in America.
You know, the one that put an end to slavery, and made the Arab nations virtually destitute, when this lucrative trade collapsed.
All of which justifies what Isil does now, and without any "civilized" limit!
Which is exactly how Henry the IV behaved, when invading France during the Napoleonic wars, and therefore perfectly justified?
And lets not forget what Richard the Lionhearted got away with, during the crusades, which took the lives of 6 million Muslims!
All these Mass Murdering WHITE CHRISTIANS must be made to pay!
Fortunately Isil has seen this and has reinstated Slavery, and legal ownership of all lessor races; disbelievers one and all, and therefore, can be legitimately used as and when the "need" arises!
For any purpose, and the younger the better!
Someone just has to carry the can for these historical outrages!
Little wonder Killarny loves these shining example Isil people so much, and along with Suse, defends them and their absolute right to do anything to anyone; particularly innocent women and children, with an indefatigable passion that is inimitable; and has to be seen to be believed!
What an incredible example for our young people to follow or be inspired by!
Perhaps even to the point, where they set off to join Isil, to help them with their wonderful civilizing and charitable endeavors!
Well done Killarny and Sues!
Your parents would be so proud and Isil is so well served by your strenuous recruitment efforts here!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Saturday, 27 September 2014 9:40:21 AM
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Look here, between LEGO and RUSTY I'm not sure that I can continue to participate on OLO. Then if you add in RUNNER and INDIVIDUAL and JOE as well, the forces of blind ignorance and intellectual poverty are truly awe-inspiring!

Thing is, on nearly every forum, there are people exactly like the aforementioned. You can't escape them no matter how hard you try. They thrive in damp corners and dark places and spread like malignant cancer.

Thing is, Bruce, you can't argue with such people. They have all the answers and they ram them down our throats with unabashed zeal. They are never wrong and, with a passion, they hate people who put forward different views. They cling to their programming like poop to a baby blanket.

All I can say is: please, please give us a break from your mindless, endless, black and white dissertations. Take a long holiday or join a Buddhist retreat.

You won't be missed!
Posted by David G, Saturday, 27 September 2014 9:55:13 AM
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