The state, which is supposed to protect us, is in fact aiding and abetting violent crimes of all sorts by taking away our means of self-defence and leaving us exposed. Criminals must be so happy about this; so are the increasing numbers of those who get employed in the prison-industry off our tax-money.

Normally, someone who is hired to do a job and fails to do it, pays compensation. If government, which already takes the money to protect us, fails to do so, surely it should fully compensate the victims (or their survivors). Had this been the case, surely it would instead encourage people to protect themselves when they can.

Mr Leyonhjelm is again pressing his libertarian programme - liberty for the predators and slavery for the prey - and when it's liberty to own guns it's not just slavery but death for the prey. The Slave Owners' Amendment (SOA) to the American Constitution means death for ten thousand Americans, shot dead by other Americans (and occasionally by themselves) every year.

A catch cry for the gun freaks in the USA is to proclaim that only the SOA protects the people from government (federal of course) tyranny. Yet never once has it done do, even with the endless police-state encroachments on liberty imposed after the attack on the Twin Towers.

Yes people should be entitled to the means to defend themselves - capsicum spray, tasers, baseball bats - you name it. But not guns, because it is the predators who get the drop on the prey, every time. Even in military bases where everyone is armed to the teeth, armed infiltrators kill soldiers.

Only the state can protect prey from armed predators. How? Be serious about banning guns. That means a mandatory minimum life sentence on conviction for possessing a gun and ammo. No way callous old ducks on parole boards can ever sool the offenders back on the public.

Ave! Julian,

Wise words and I fully support your idea of banning all guns,
no doubt you have thought this through and will shortly tell us how we can disarm all the criminals before we start disarming the law abiding.

Go for it!!

Emperor Julian:
Owning a gun for self protection need not be mandatory!
Why someone with your (control freak) convictions could even post signs on their property, "no guns stored or kept here," so the intending break and enter (drug maddened) merchant can pick and choose, who is to be the next victim!
Perhaps if you just took the time and trouble to actually look at the black and blue bodies of some of the badly beaten oldies, near beaten to death, protecting their few remaining if incredibly humble treasures, you would have no compunction, as a NORMAL human being, but to agree with David!
However, one suspects that most of the anti-gun brigade, are far from normal LOGICAL human being, with normal human empathy; or even basic human decency/common sense!?
Sorry, but I, and no doubt most surviving former victims, beaten into broken bone/ruptured testicle submission, will agree with David.
And one notes he is advocating non lethal means, which include bean bag ammo, tasers, pepper sprays and the like.
And so typical of the anti self defense brigade, automatically rejected as well, given they are all lumped into your incredibly illogical, anti firearms mindset?
Perhaps when it is you spending a pain racked month or so in hospital, hovering near death.
It may change your mind!?
Maybe not! Maybe there's not one in there to change?
I mean, the Jews are the ones that tried passive resistance, and look where that ended!
Maybe we should just wait until the offender has stabbed the intended victim, a few dozen times, just to be sure, that a lethal response is genuinely required!
No one is advocating known crims or nut jobs are given legal access to firearms, or any other lethal weapons, just law abiding citizens!
Don't want a gun, don't get one!
Ownership and or self defense, will never ever become mandatory!
I suspect, if the law abiding citizen is enabled by new sensible laws, as advocated by a distinctly sensible David, the break and enter crimes; and associated serious assaults, will massively reduce!
I rest my case.
Rhrosty.

Emperor Julian,
A gun would dispose of a problem human i.e. criminal for good. Capsicum spray will not !
Where is the problem ??

Emperor Julian

So the state should not be entitled to possess guns? We are going to get serious about banning guns, so no-one will have them, including the state?

Or you support a double standard in which monopoly predators can shoot their slave prey ?

Which one are you supporting?