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If war is not the answer, what is? : Comments

By Richard Heggie, published 19/9/2014

A six step plan concentrating on understanding, discussion and humanitarian engagement is the only durable solution to ISIS.

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You are very good a criticizing us David G, but what is your alternative? How should the West deal with the IS? Detail some sort of plan that "you" would use to stop the carnage in the Middle East?
Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 8:06:46 AM
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LEGO, Individual & JayB,

Sit back and watch how the pseudo-left will now duck and dive, and drop their guts, to buckle under the threat of terrorism.

Watch how they will try to persuade/cajole/bully people into capitulating to the threat because, 'after all', by doing anything against ISIS, we're only provoking them to carry out attacks in Australia, so it's all the fault of the US. They'll say that we shouldn't be involved because ISIS will then be justified in carrying out those attacks.

Come on, David, give it a go :)

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 9:01:04 AM
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by doing anything against ISIS, we're only provoking them to carry out attacks in Australia,
Loudmouth,
What the David G's of this world have to learn to comprehend that an organisation that openly anounces that it wants to rid this planet of all who are not like they are, does not need any rovocation in the first place. It just goes to show how stupid some people are. IS will do these things unprovoked, they even say so themselves. What the West has to do is to curb its stupidity within & then curb the stupidity of others especially those who want to do us harm.
How can Australia ever hope to fight outside stupidity when we have tens of thousands of David G's on our electoral roll ? Take-over merchants always look for the weakness in a society. Australia's dangerous weakness is its Left.
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 10:49:39 AM
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Hi Joe.

Your analysis is the point of this whole topic. Richard Heggie wants to blame the USA for any rise in terrorism in Australia. Message? Australia must distance itself from the USA.

Richard Heggie is another Internationalist who think we can avoid war by being neutral and being nice to everybody. Although, being neutral in WW2 did not help the Dutch, Danes, Belgians, Norwegians, Greeks or Yugoslavs. Many of those countries are now part of NATO.

The election of Obama was indicative of the way in which the American people are becoming more isolationaist. They are sick of being the world's policeman and getting no thanks. For years, the euros have stood by and let the yanks do their dirty work while they acted like Richard Heggie and played the moral superiors.

This began to change during the Yugoslav war. When multicultural Yugoslavia fell apart with the usual massacres of innocents, the Euros told the yanks to butt out, the more sophisticated euros would now show the war mongering USA how to do it. So, they had a meeting followed by a conference, followed by "joint statements" from the primary political leaders denouncing the violence. When the killing continued, they held another meeting and another conference. Followed by more meetings and more conferences. Nothing got done until the yanks led the way again.

The euros are now getting terrified that the yanks are going isolationist again. That is why they are falling all over each other offering military support for the yanks this time. Richard Heggie's thinking is completely out of date with the "sophisticated" euros who are starting to realise just how much they need the USA. Their own armed forces are now so run down that Europe could not fight off an invasion from Botswana.
Posted by LEGO, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 6:16:58 AM
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Gee, as a peacemaker, I'm really on my own. Looking through the comments in the main they divide into two parts: the warmongers, which make up the majority, and the fence-sitters who half-think that war is our duty as human beings, patriotic even.

It's a shame that Western programming has been so successful because it means that war will never end which will keep the capitalists and the Western imperialists happy.

Anyway, I will keep on with my mission to convince the mindless rabble that peace is the only option to avoid nuclear war and human extinction.

Of course, I'm fighting against programming AND human nature! Boy, what a challenge that is.

I sometimes wonder why I bother.
Posted by David G, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 7:15:39 AM
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Gee, as a peacemaker, I'm really on my own
David G,
You are exactly the opposite of a peacemaker, you are a facilitator for the bad, you just can't think ahead far enough.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 7:59:07 AM
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