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If war is not the answer, what is? : Comments

By Richard Heggie, published 19/9/2014

A six step plan concentrating on understanding, discussion and humanitarian engagement is the only durable solution to ISIS.

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Yes halduell, I think some of us might be becoming a little precious about beheadings. After all it is not that long since the French were beheading their noblemen & women with the guillotine, & the Poms were using an axe for the same job on those the king didn't like. To claim any superiority there requires a pretty short memory.

I am more upset by seeing hundreds lined up kneeling with their hands tied behind their back to be shot in the back of the head. Of course some Europeans were doing the same thing quite recently, but I didn't see that.

These people are vicious thugs, who want to kill us, & will do so any chance they get. Those here are going to kill, it is just a matter of when. We might as well bring it on now, rather than wait until there are more of them, & they are better organised.

The question is how many of us are going to suffer, & how many can they kill before we treat them as we should? My guess is many will be hurt before we act, & the result will not be nice.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 19 September 2014 1:00:54 PM
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Phyllis Bennis's 6 Point Plan to weaken the influence of ISIS is simply pie in the sky. The first three points completely undermine any chance to stop ISIS from carrying on as they please.

Point one: Stop the airstrikes.

Point two: Make real the commitment to "No boots on the ground". No Advisers, trainers, CIA personnel and special forces.

Point three: Organize a real diplomatic partnership to deal with ISIS.

Hardy-har-har... who's side is she on? What a twit.

How is that people like Phyllis Bennis, Christine Milne, Poirot and several others on OLO don't understand that as soon as they arrived in Iraq to negotiate their 'Group Hug and Forgiveness Diplomacy' they would all be captured and held for ransom.

If the Greens truly they believe they know better, maybe they should organise a plane load of their executive committee and fly over for direct talks with ISIS and put their actions where their mouths are.
Posted by ConservativeHippie, Friday, 19 September 2014 1:13:18 PM
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This disaster seems to come about because the State allows all religions to proselytize their individual causes. I believe I am correct in saying that the majority in Australia do not believe that "God" exists other than inside individual brains.
The State should even things up by taxing religious organizations and using the proceeds to employ ethics teachers in every school. All that should be required of all citizens is broadly speaking, behaviour along the lines of "Do as you would be done by". All religions seem to excuse this cardinal rule if it suits them whether it is misbehaving with little boys, with the excuse that the Organization is more important than the individual or murdering people of other religious persuasions in the name of Allah.
Posted by Dickybird, Friday, 19 September 2014 2:27:32 PM
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War is the only answer these servants of Satan understand.
And the only thing that will stop them murdering millions of entirely innocent people, by the most barbarous means available.
Stopping the air strikes is not an option, particularly when they have been the one thing, that has stopped this trail of mass murder, dead in its tracks; and the only/real reason the Author wants them stopped!?
It's purely a defensive measure!
And not revenge as mendaciously contended.
Self evidently, the diabolically deliberately disingenuous/pro Isil Author is, I believe, applying his own fundamentally flawed standards on to all others/seriously twisting the actual truth.
And the air strikes has handed back the advantage to the sovereign Government, who is doing nothing more than defending its own territory and nationals, against insane medieval miscreants; that have absolutely nothing in common with Islam!
Satanism, and human sacrifice however/spilling innocent blood?
Perhaps?
And given like attracts like; and birds of a feather tend to flock together, more reason to use all means possible, to put an end to their (live by the sword die by the sword) murderous, intensely evil activities, permanently!
And just to serve survival/self defense, rather than the mendaciously mounted, ridiculously risible revenge theory!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Friday, 19 September 2014 2:29:44 PM
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The Government should make a start by cancelling the firearms licences of all known Jihardists.

John Howard would do it.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 19 September 2014 4:23:39 PM
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I take it Richard H that you are only putting forward Phyllis Bennis point of view. I would hate to think that you endorse this view. If you do then your name certainly suits you, Richard H.

Heracles' killing of the Hydra. (a Seven headed serpent) (Parts taken from the Townsville Bulletin)

"The mythical hydra was eventually slain by Heracles, which he did by driving the monster from its cave lair with fire, before severing its heads with a golden sword and cauterizing the stumps to prevent regrowth.

A ripping yarn, but is an advisory tale as Australia prepares to do battle with the multi-headed Islamic terrorists who seem so intent to exterminate those who disagree with them.

Currently they are the only ones specializing in beheading but since Australia has deployed C130 Hercules transports as part of its Middle East contribution, perhaps change is literally in the air.

The RAAF FA18 Hornets will no doubt target the heads of the various murderous Islamic groups in an attempt to destroy them by fire rained down from above, but unless there is concurrent, supporting ground action replacement heads will rapidly appear.

To do task will require immense political courage. The Hercules’ symbolism might just be an appropriate emblem for the long task ahead."

But within the myth lies the answer.

A word of caution. As in Heracles death. Heracles wife was persuaded by Nessus to give Heracles a love Potion he had made, but, it was in fact a poison. So we need to be careful about who we take on as a partner, in faith, because it maybe the cause of our own downfall.

Heracles burnt himself to death due to the pain poisons caused.

Allow all those who want to go to the Middle East go, & take their families with them. Once they are all there in one place, eliminate with extreme prejudice.

Allowing those who wish to leave, rids Australia of the Radicals that would cause harm here. They MUST never be allowed to return even if they are Australian Citizens.
Posted by Jayb, Friday, 19 September 2014 8:20:00 PM
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