Agronomist,

>>groups picketing abortion clinics in the US, where the WCF hails from, have not been above setting off bombs, setting fire to clinics and shooting doctors. <<

Does this mean that WCF in Australia should be politically hunted down and made to change their venue and speakers the way described in this article just because things worse than that happened against abortion clinics in the country “where the WCF hails from”? Where is the relevance? Can you give us a quote where Babette, or somebody speaking on behalf of WCF, publicly supported “setting off bombs, setting fire to clinics and shooting doctors”?

I have never heard of WCF before, but here in Europe you have all sorts of gatherings, Gay Pride, Pro Family, Gender Mainstreaming marches, conferences, etc with ideological and political supporters of the ones or the others. The point is not so much whom you support but whether the political and social system you support allows for free speech whether or not the particular position taken agrees with your personal convictions.

'It's a shame you use your Christianity as a shield from behind which to fire your darts.

probably more of a shame Poirot that your ideology supports killing the unborn and that you also seem to back ferals who don't believe in free speach.

I agree with free speech George, as long as what is said is not hate speech such as the anti-homosexuality and anti-choice speeches.

Being gay or having an abortion is not against the law in Australia (except maybe Queensland of course), so the nasty placards or false ancient allegations and religious rants against these people should not be allowed.

It should then follow that so called 'Family Conferences' that promote these hateful rants, (and people like the charming Runner) should not be allowed to publicly promote them, and especially not to use politicians wearing their official hats to legitimise their rubbish views.

Suseonline,

>>I agree with free speech George, as long as what is said is not hate speech such as the anti-homosexuality and anti-choice speeches.<<

Could you please quote Babette’s (or other representative of WCR) anti-homosexuality hate speech, whatever that means. As for “anti-choice”, there are people who are for or against legalisation of abortion, marihuana, for or against capital punishments, gun control, etc. I have my own convictions on these, that might or might not agree with Babette’s or yours, but as I said above, that should not be the point.

>> Being gay or having an abortion is not against the law in Australia, so the nasty placards or false ancient allegations and religious rants against these people should not be allowed. <<

Does it mean that one should be allowed to express one’s disagreement only with things that are against the law? Could you quote where Babette supported “nasty placards or false ancient allegations and religious rants against” whomever?

>>not to use politicians wearing their official hats to legitimise their rubbish views.<<

Rubbish or not, apparently not only runner can become emotional when referring to views he disagrees with.

George, I never suggested Babette herself spoke about any of these issues because I wasn't at the conference, were you?
However, she was obviously involved in arranging such a conference and upon looking up what sorts of issues were to be 'discussed' at this gathering,
I was horrified. Any intelligent person would be too.

Mamamia.com explains just a few of their 'ideas'.
"1. Women who take the pill lose interest in sex and are more likely to be the victim of violent assault and murder.
2. Women who take the pill are more likely to engage in incest.
3. Social policies should not promote single-parenting which contributes to the decay of society’s moral values.
4. Abortion, divorce, single parents and LGBT people are responsible for promiscuity, sexually transmitted diseases, poverty, human trafficking, violence against women and child abuse.
5. The pill and other contraception can and has killed women all over the world. The pill also kills babies.
6. There’s a link between abortion and breast cancer.
7. The sole purpose of sex is for procreation and an expression of love between husband and wife in the covenant of marriage. All other sexual activity cannot satisfy the human spirit and leads to remorse, alienation and disease.
8. Vladimir Putin’s draconian homosexual vilification laws that send LGBT Russians to prison are a ‘great idea’ that the rest of the world should follow. Russia is the Christian saviour to the world and Putin is heroically preventing Russian LGBT people from corrupting children.
9. All forms of non-heterosexual sex is a sin and gay people should be converted to heterosexuality via Christian therapy."

Read more at http://www.mamamia.com.au/social/world-congress-of-families-2014/#7iwTHyXPc6mHRR1F.99

and Susie try listing some of the vomit that comes from Emily's listers. You don't mind ferals free to say all wives being prostitutes do you?