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The Abbott Doctrine: a rush to the cliff : Comments

By Bruce Haigh, published 12/9/2014

The lemming-like haste to follow Americans into not one but possibly two new wars is as unwise as it is unseemly.

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Joe I really do not think any one of us is saying that what they are doing, beheading people, is worthy of a medal, but as David G pointed out that the US is as cruel as the beheaders in what they do in war and even on their own soil, one only hopes now that the innocent people in Iraq are not once again caught up in a "war" where they will suffer the most, being blown to bits is little different to a beheading.
We also must remember hatred creates desparate hatred, we in Australia are now also entrenched in just that.
Posted by Ojnab, Monday, 15 September 2014 7:52:37 PM
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Hi Ojnab,

Somewhere, the UZS may be beheading children and enslaving women, perhaps you're right. But until there is some evidence of that, surely we should turn our attention to the people we know for sure who are doing just that ?

And what Iraqis are going to be blown to bits by fighting back against the ISIS ? Shouldn't we be fighting back against ISIS and helping the Iraqis to do just that ? You really do talk rubbish, Onjab.

When you and David get over your childish nyah-nyahs, you might have to face the question: so what do we do ? What do we support ? What do we oppose ?

Once ISIS is defeated - and that could take some time, given that it's an ideology driving them, not some puppet-master as Arjay may think - then we can get back to worrying about how terribly evil the US is. But there's a hell of a lot of bridges to cross before then.

Yes, it really is a nasty world.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 15 September 2014 9:55:32 PM
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"Yes, it really is a nasty world."

Joe.

I was heartened by your admission, Joe. You are making some progress. Now, all you have to do is to join the dots between 'nasty' and 'America'.

Joe, the simple truth is that America is trying to conquer the world so it can exploit and control every nation on earth, make its oligarchs obscenely wealthy, turn its psychotic politicians into Kings.

Have a look at a world map, Joe, and see where its military bases are. Doesn't that strike you a funny, Joe, needing so many bases in so many places?

And its army, Joe. It's an army that is far bigger than is necessary to protect its mainland. Doesn't this strike you as passing strange, Joe?

And it's got nukes, Joe. Thousands of them. And many of them are in silos which point at Russia, Joe. And many of them are in high-flying warplanes which encircle our world or in nuclear submarines that infest the world's oceans.

Yeah, any thinking person, knowing these facts, could probably come to the conclusion that America is a danger to the world, that its attempt to stop Russia and China from rivaling it is going to end up in a nuclear war and the end of our Earth, Joe.

And who will you blame, Joe? As you bury your family members, who will you blame, Joe?

The Muslims of course!
Posted by David G, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 9:05:47 AM
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Joe I may talk rubbish, but unfortunately Joe, you talk out of your bom.
Posted by Ojnab, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 1:52:11 PM
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Bonejob,

Gosh, so clever.

David, when the Yanks start beheading children and enslaving women, let me know :)

Yes, it's not only a wicked world but a very complicated one too. You may emblazon your flag with

'THE U.S. IS THE ONLY EVIL POWER IN THE WORLD

ALL ELSE IS PERMITTED'

but there are far more 'wicked' powers in the world at the moment, my friend. I hope you don't learn that lesson too late.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 4:28:14 PM
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Joe, there is more than one way to "enslave" or "cut off heads" than via the crude publicity stunts of ISIS or any of their clones. Killing large number of people through drone strikes (or"bug splatter" as one drone operator charmingly called it) is but one way in which Americans have contributed to the millions of victims of their version of "democracy".

Propping up sundry Middle East despots who enslave their women is an indirect form of oppression by the US, but very real nonetheless to the millions of women suffering second class citizenship or worse in Bahrein, Saudi Arabia and elsewhere.

Why is it that decapitating three westerners is a cause for immediate outrage (largely confected in my view) but the deaths of 200,000 Syrians as a result of western sponsored "regime change", or 500,000 Iraqi women and children and old people through sanctions and no-fly zones 1991-2003 (a price "worth it" according to the US Secretary of State Albright); or the regular wholesale slaughter of Palestinians by the Zionists to name but three examples (there are literally millions more dead as examples) produces not a squeak of outrage from Abbott and his sundry ilk throughout so-called western civilised nations.?

Like too many commentators on this site you tend to confuse criticism of a country's policies with being "anti" this or that country. Frankly, that is a juvenile view which someone of your age and experience should have long since outgrown.
Posted by James O'Neill, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 5:25:37 PM
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