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The Abbott Doctrine: a rush to the cliff : Comments

By Bruce Haigh, published 12/9/2014

The lemming-like haste to follow Americans into not one but possibly two new wars is as unwise as it is unseemly.

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Bruce; you'd likely be first in the cliff jumping queue, clamoring for US assistance/justice, were we ever attacked!
Rhrosty,
Bruce Haigh was apparently in foreign affairs so he's bound to have some fellow federal Public service Superannuation mongers in Immigration. All he has to do is to get his immigration mates to refuse Visas for any wannabe attackers to come here. Problem solved, we won't need the US.
The lefties got it right, if we don't stop the brutalities over there then the brutes will give them special consideration when they get here.
Posted by individual, Friday, 12 September 2014 2:04:28 PM
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as Bruce is a denialist when it comes to Islam I would have no confidence in his judgement. He is probably to naive to see that the reasons we have so many terrorist here in Australia is because of the blind ignorance of those sprouting all religions and cultures are equal. Bruce seemed in favour of opening up the country to illegals. In doing so they have put many Australians at risk. When are the 'progressives' going to come out of denial and realise that their appeasement is simply laughed at and seen as weakness by those serving Allah. Poor old Obama now having to swallow his pride and admit that Bush was right about his premature withdrawal from Iraq to make himself look like the good guy. Progressives need to take the blinkers off in order to look at facts not just bias to suite their hopelessly flawed narrative.
Posted by runner, Friday, 12 September 2014 3:22:31 PM
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Thank you Bruce for raising some important points. I would just add some brief comments.

You refer to American outrage over the beheadings of two of their citizens. Their treatment is of course an affront on many bases. But where is the outrage over the many more beheadings of their close ally Saudi Arabia: 75 in 2012 and 2013 and more than a dozen last month alone, including for the crime of "sorcery".

I agree that a proper debate should be held, although given the attitude of the Labor Party it would probably not change the result. A fear of an adverse result (as Cameron got in the UK over Syria) would be one reason, but far from the only one. It speaks volumes about the fundamentally non-democratic instincts of Abbott and his motley crew that we have no debate, just as we have never had an inquiry into the Iraq War, much less held those responsible for that illegal travesty accountable.

You describe Obama as "reluctant". I suggest that is a facade, as is evident from his last major speech earlier this week which is a classic illustration of imperial hubris and hypocrisy.

You are correct to be wary of Abbott's bull in a china shop approach to foreign affairs. His attitude and conduct over Ukraine is cause for much worry. Left to his own devices he would probably take us to war against Russia! His misrepresentation of the Dutch non-report into the MH17 crash in the context of a secret non-disclosure agreement with Ukraine, Belgium and the Netherlands (yet to be reported in the msm) betrays the fundamental dishonesty of his policies.

Finally, you suggest Saudi Arabia might be enlisted to help. They are not part of the solution: they are a major part of the problem.
Posted by James O'Neill, Friday, 12 September 2014 3:52:50 PM
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Wow, the usefuls are out in force today.

Can I respectfully augment Rhosty's quote, that "For evil to prosper, good men need only stand and do nothing.... while useful idiots prattle about terribly dreadful irrelevancies."

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Friday, 12 September 2014 4:13:24 PM
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Power plays are changing dramatically. Both James Rickards author of 'The Death of Money' and Dr Jim Willie are saying that Germany will soon join the BRICS alliance. This means the end of the EU and the power of the Rothschild Banking Dynasty. This is why both Russia and China have been demonised. They no longer want to be slaves to Central Bankers debt money creation via counterfeiting of our currencies.
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 12 September 2014 11:34:26 PM
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After raising Australia's terrorism alert level from medium to high today, the following quote was found in the Guardian and is attributed to our PM.
“What people will probably notice though is more security at airports, more security at ports, more security at military bases, more security at government buildings, and more security at large public events.”
For security read more police, more intrusive monitoring, and it is THIS that is the evil that will prosper while good men do nothing.
Obama is not now, nor has he ever been, reluctant to do the bidding of the neo-cons left inside the Beltway when W departed. He is one of them, root and branch, and has been from the get-go. Look at who he has appointed. Look at what he has done. Look at what he has not done.
Among much else, he created ISIL, and now he says he wants to uncreate it. Will that include creating another force just like it? And will this new force eventually also need to be uncreated?
Tony, dear Tony! Are you really so dumb? Is it that important to you to sit at the high table with the warmongers?
Posted by halduell, Saturday, 13 September 2014 1:32:57 AM
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