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Gaza: Hamas humiliates and manipulates world media : Comments
By David Singer, published 18/8/2014Any journalist is free to report what they see in Gaza as long as it is coloured Hamas.
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Posted by imajulianutter, Monday, 25 August 2014 11:22:14 PM
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Nutter:
You claim that my logic is lacking, my math is lousy, yet you produce evidence for neither. Can you show where my math is failing? Are my numbers incorrect? How will reading more about mathematics change the numbers I posted? Why is my position “somewhat” illogical? Any idea? Is it just something you read somewhere as a good retort? I’m not holding my breath for any real answer from you, so far you’ve failed to answer any of my questions and I am under no illusion that you will start now. Your posts reveal your extreme fanaticism and narrow-mindedness, you replies indicate you read my posts according to what you want it to say, not what it actually says (in other words - completely wrong). Lack of intellect? You have a long way to climb up from your deep personal pit of ignorance before you can use this as criticism against anyone here, whatever their opinions are. I’ve given you evidence that no ethnic cleansing is taking place, you obviously have no idea how respond to this other than telling me I should be reading more maths and philosophy. Thank you for this completely useless post. Let me ask you again: do you have any doubt that the Israelis could have ethnically cleansed the entire Gaza Strip by force in a matter of days if they really wanted to? Stuck in an ancient biblical period as you are with no real knowledge of current world affairs, with nothing but poetry to guide you, I guess it’s too much to ask. “'Jayb, sorry I don’t have a link to the material you’re after.'… Go on v dub tell him why not.” Ummm…maybe because I haven’t searched for it? I give up, what’s your crazy theory? Let me guess, does it have anything to do with my math skills? “…these imbeciles keep telling us we are wrong and won't survive. Look at the disasters befallen generations of Jews and generations of Sunni and Shia Muslims” How are your fellow Christians doing in the Middle East? Surviving well? No disasters befalling them? Posted by Avw, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 9:10:26 AM
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Dear David,
Kindly re-read my earlier post regarding my own experiences with The New York Times over decades. I mentioned Gary Weiss only in the last paragraphs of that particular post. The error in authorship does not change the thrust of the points being made however, and I stand by my position on the newspaper. I do not accept the fact that The New York Times is biased. And if you and Mr Behar feel that it is - you perhaps need to ask yourself - Why? Why would The New York Times suddenly turn against Israel - as you claim they have done? The UN Relief and Works Agency Commissioner-General as well as the White House's open condemnation of Israel's artillery strike on a UN Girls' school in which sleeping children were killed appeared to be a line in the sand for the international community. Describing the shelling of the school sheltering 3,300 displaced Palestinians as "totally unacceptable and totally indefensible" the White House said there was little doubt it was Israeli artillery that hit the school. It was one of the worst mass-casualty attacks of the three- week was and the sixth time a UN school in Gaza had been hit. Following the attack the UN Relief and Works Agency Commissioner-General said: "The world stands disgraced, this is an affront to all of us, a source of universal shame!" The Gaza Health Ministry says the Palestinian death toll since fighting began is massive and the number of wounded is over 9,000 and rising, while human-rights groups say that 80 percent of the dead and injured are civilians. Gaza's Housing Ministry's initial estimate on the damage caused by the Israel Defence Forces' operations is about $US4 billion ($4.3 billion) and that more than 5328 buildingd had been destroyed. Since the start of Operation Protective Edge, 61 IDF soldiers have been killed. The statistics speak for themselves. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 11:04:05 AM
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Foxy, I applaud your efforts to drive some sense into the Singer's head (while bringing to our attention the current Israeli genocide and slaughter) but you need to appreciate that the Singer only listens to the anachronistic demons inside his own head.
You would have more chance of influencing a house brick to change itself than changing the Singer. Suffice to say that ignoring the Singer's endless rants and deceitful propaganda is your only course of action if you want to retain your sanity! Posted by David G, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 11:55:22 AM
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#Foxy
You have failed to answer this question I put to you: "How do you reconcile your unsubstantiated and generalised claim that the New York Times is printing the facts of what is actually happening in Gaza with these three quotes from Behar's article: (a) "Proof of the use by Hamas of civilians as human shields has finally been ably exposed by reporters for media outlets in Finland, France, India, Italy, Japan, Russia, and others—but not by news organizations with greater resources at hand such as BBC, CNN, the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal and numerous others." (b) "Moreover, some, if not many, of the kids could also be fighters. Earlier this year, a handful of media outlets exposed Hamas military-training summer camps for kids aged 6-16 in Gaza. Did the Western press corps in Israel pay any heed? (Reuters and NBC News, to their credit, did a slideshow and photo blog, respectively. The New York Times didn’t even touch it, although its reporter Akram lives in Gaza and surely must know about the camps.) (c) "Clearly, the preponderance of the evidence is that reporters have indeed been intimidated, and that there is a reason for the intimidation—Hamas has a lot to hide. The media, in other words, is part of the story. Yet this is a story that does not exist to the readers of the New York Times, which include the policymakers in Washington." Quit speculating about Behar's motives and address the substance of his above claims demonstrating that the New York Times does not print the facts of what is actually happening in Gaza." Answer this question please. #DavidG Your advice to Roxy is well grounded. If you cannot challenge anything raised in my articles - then simply do not respond. #imajulianutter is a perfect example - now adding Moslem hatred to his/her well identified Jew - hatred credentials. Jews and Moslems are imbeciles according to his/her opinion. There are many opportunities for him/her and others engaging in the same conduct to state their views elsewhere on the net - such as: http://www.topix.com/forum/world/palestinian-territory Posted by david singer, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 12:31:29 PM
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Dear David,
There's an old agage: "Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining." And both you and Mr Behar are trying yo do precisely that. Until you both provide concrete evidence of your claims - (with reliable information) your inferences and suppositions can only be taken as being ones of those on an ideological crusade. To downplay Israeli violence and the reality of the occupation and to focus on the supposed irrationality and violence of the Palestinians only, and then claim that the US and global media is biased - simply reflects your own bias and attempts on this forum at manipulation. It would be laughable if it wasn't so obvious. As a form of blogging pointing fingers might be endlessly satisfying for you. But as a form of political expression, its pretty hollow and out of tune with reality. I shan't be responding to you any further. I have no wish to continue to contribute to your crusade. Your hebetude is stunning. You're a virtuoso at Zionist propaganda. I shall leave you to it. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 2:07:04 PM
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Yeah go on argue about the gnats on the apes bottom. Forget about how the ape is tearing the civilised worlds decency to shreds by dealing with barbaric behaviour with barbaric behaviour.
We in the west have learned better than that. Our civilisation has grown and developed. The ones he and his enemies try to maintain seem to continually be at odds with others or within themselves and they suffer repeatedly for that.
Why doesn't Singer address the issues involved with that particular stupidity?
He can't. His book and the books of his enemies won't let them question ancient dogma.
The west did and still does question stupidity that leads to war, destruction and pointless death. Look at how we have grown and developed. You would think they would all ask why?
Oh no these imbeciles keep telling us we are wrong and won't survive.
Look at the disasters befallen generations of Jews and generations of Sunni and Shia Muslims.
They are all the bloody same and they all try to involve us in their nastiness.
'When will they ever learn?'