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Does Australia need a 'climate policy' at all? : Comments

By Don Aitkin, published 22/7/2014

The evidence continues to mount that carbon dioxide is not, after all, the control knob of the planet's temperature.

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How can we have a climate policy that is informed and genuine, Lucifer? The electorate has succumbed to the AGW fraud, which is why Abbott has the direct action policy.
It is baseless because it acknowledges that global warming is caused by CO2, while we know that for the last 17 years there has been no global warming despite the increase in the proportion of CO2 in the atmosphere over that period.
Action must be taken to demonstrate to all that there is no science to show that human emissions have any measurable effect on climate. Our climate policy should be to expose the AGW fraud, and bring the perpetrators to account. The carbon tax was fraud based, as Gillard well knew, and direct action has no purpose but to satisfy those duped by the AGW fraud. The electric car should go back to being the car of the future.
Posted by Leo Lane, Thursday, 24 July 2014 11:20:02 PM
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But agro

The weather we experienced could not have happened if the oceans had warmed.

But then again it might have if the surface temps on the land had been substantially lower than those recorded in winters over the past .... years or it could have been a southeast trough driven cold front contacting an approaching east moving upper level high.

And none of those conditions could have happened if, as you and your scientists mates, claim the globe is warming.

Your simplistic it's the weather, it's the weather is monty-pythonesque. Climate is determined by weather. Lol.
Posted by imajulianutter, Friday, 25 July 2014 11:05:02 AM
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imajulianutter, the conditions Brisbane experienced on Tuesday night are perfectly possible with a warming ocean. It is called variability and it is known to be a massive influence on weather.

It is only those who have no understanding of the causes of weather who would make such a claim as you made.
Posted by Agronomist, Friday, 25 July 2014 6:32:31 PM
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Many on onlineopinion argue that anthropogenic climate change is not happening.
Don suggests that no policy is needed in relation to climate change; how would Miami be without planning for the future (ie policy)?
When there are storms allied to high tides, waters travel up culverts in lower lying areas of Miami; apart from, crashing over foreshores. Sea levels are rising.
Posted by ant, Saturday, 26 July 2014 11:47:52 AM
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Where on earth do you get this garbage ant, some less than honest academic, looking for grant money no doubt.

In Port Arthur, & Sydney harbor, convict engraved tide marks are still as relevant today, as the day they were chiseled in the rock.

Satellite measurements do show some very minor rise in some areas, which could be subsidence depending on interpretation.

Perhaps Miami is subsiding like much of Florida, after too much extraction of ground water. May be the Florida authorities should be spending some time studying in Holland, rather than pinning some forlorn hope that robbing everyone of their energy requirements will turn back the sea. Hell even King Canute could do that.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 26 July 2014 12:18:16 PM
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Hasbeen, there have been film clips in relation to flooding of Miami and
the capital works being completed. The Guardian has also written about it.
Posted by ant, Saturday, 26 July 2014 1:45:43 PM
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