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Does Australia need a 'climate policy' at all? : Comments

By Don Aitkin, published 22/7/2014

The evidence continues to mount that carbon dioxide is not, after all, the control knob of the planet's temperature.

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There has been anomalous weather patterns around the globe for 2014.

http://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,323.400.html
Posted by ant, Monday, 28 July 2014 7:29:07 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_floods#1950s

The number and severity of extreme flood events has been rising since the 1950s with the last two decades particularly bad.
Posted by warmair, Monday, 28 July 2014 9:01:50 PM
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Scientist Roger Pielke, in his evidence to the Senate recently said there has been no increase in the events and some evidence of a decline:
“Pielke, however, notes that U.S. floods have not increased in “frequency or intensity” since 1950 and economic losses from floods have dropped by 75 percent as a percentage of GDP since 1940. Tornado frequency, intensity, and normalized damages have also not increased since 1950, and Pielke even notes that there is some evidence that this has declined.
Pielke noted in his testimony that droughts have been shorter, less frequent, and have covered a smaller portion of the U.S over the last century. Globally, there has been very little change in the last 60 years, he said.
“The absolute costs of disasters will increase significantly in coming years due to greater wealth and populations in locations exposed to extremes,” Pielke added. “Consequent, disasters will continue to be an important focus of policy, irrespective of the exact future course of climate change.””

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/18/scientist-tells-senators-global-warming-not-causing-extreme-weather/#ixzz38lJoSwLt

Agro refers us to the BOM, already caught out this year in a blatant lie about what it alleged was a “hottest day on record”. Like any fraud backer, it is dishonest
Posted by Leo Lane, Monday, 28 July 2014 9:49:28 PM
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Good one Leo,

<<Agro refers us to the BOM, already caught out this year in a blatant lie about what it alleged was a “hottest day on record”. Like any fraud backer, it is dishonest>>

I picked-up on that also, It's funny how warmists are happy to latch on to short time frames when they appear to bolster their case.

Agro ought to hand in his scientific credientials!
Posted by SPQR, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 7:38:28 AM
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Leo, you continue to use the words "fraud" and "dishonesty" very carelessly.
Leo, Pielke is a political scientist, he is neither an economist,nor a climate scientist.

http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2014/03/nate_silver_climate_change_denial_it_s_time_to_dump_fivethirtyeight_s_roger.html

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/03/19/3416369/538-climate-article/

Here is a project where real science is being completed, Leo; it is in the process of extending the work already completed by Shakhova and Semiletov in the winter of 2014. The project is obtaining much objective data, not just opinion.

http://a4rglobalmethanetracking.blogspot.com.au/2014/07/major-methane-releases-at-laptev.html

Be worried if they continue to find menthane flares.
Posted by ant, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 9:09:41 AM
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Ant
To clarify
Roger A. Pielke senior is a climate scientist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_A._Pielke
From Leo’s point of view he would claim Pielke Senior is a fraud.
Quote Pielke Senior
“I have been asked if I consider if the human addition of CO2 is a first order climate forcing. The answer, of course, as I have consistently emphasized in my research papers and presentations, and on my weblog, is a categorical YES.”

http://pielkeclimatesci.wordpress.com/2009/10/24/is-the-human-input-of-co2-a-first-order-climate-forcing/

Incidentally he also believes that humans are the cause of most of the heating, over the last contrary, but he lays the blame on a range of factors, and attributes no more than 28% to CO2.


Roger A. Pielke Junior is a political scientist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_A._Pielke_(Jr)

I can not establish which of them it was who gave evidence to the US senate. Which ever of them said it, it is misleading because floods have increased in severity world wide, so has the number of heat waves and storm intensity
Posted by warmair, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 12:02:12 PM
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