What if Hamas dumped all its rockets in the sea tomorrow? Would Gazans enjoy the same freedoms as other nations? Would they be able to open their sea port to foreign ships and rebuild and operate their airport? Would they be able to import and export and carry on trade and develop their economy and prosper like other countries?

Would they be allowed to exploit and develop their offshore gas field? Would their fishermen be allowed to fish in unpolluted waters? Would their young people be able to come and go and take up places at foreign universities?

Would Israel clear out of Gazan airspace permanently? Would the Israeli navy cease its piracy and stay out of Palestinian territorial waters? Would you and I be able to visit Gaza direct?

Fat chance. None of this would suit Israel. So Gazans would be no better off. Their tormented half-existence would continue.
http://www.redressonline.com/2014/07/what-if-hamas-dumped-all-its-rockets/
There are no rockets coming out of the West Bank. Yet the illegal Israeli occupation there continues and so does the ethnic cleansing, the land theft, the illegal settlements, the colonization, the demolition of Palestinian homes, the throttling of the economy, the abduction and “administrative detention” of civilians and the massive interference with freedom of movement. Nothing has changed for West Bank Palestinians who do not fire rockets. There is no sign of an end to their misery.

@under one god. Well said. Israel of course has no intention of relinquishing its stranglehold on Gaza as well as the other Palestinian territories which it illegally occupies (and Syrian territory as well).

One of the (unspoken) reasons for Israel's domination of Gaza are the substantial oil and gas deposits off the Gaza coast which when developed would give Palestine significant financial resources and a measure of true economic independence. Israel has no intention of allowing that to happen. In the view of many observers that is a fundamental reason (although far from the only one) for Israeli control of Gaza's waters.

there is just so much info
its like we are attacking at all fronts
http://home.alphalink.com.au/~radnat/anstey%27s%20kingdom%20of%20shylock.html

Unite believes the Israelis’ attack on the Palestinian people is merely cover for their intransigence during the peace talks and an expression of their future intent. “Israel is clearly concerned that the Palestinian people are finding a new unity and that the justness of their cause is gaining increasing international recognition and support.”

And it neatly debunks the Israeli propaganda myth about rockets.

This isn’t about rockets from Gaza. It’s about Israel fighting to maintain its control over Palestinian lives, and Palestinian land.

It’s about Israel feeling able to commit war crimes with complete impunity. It’s about the world media indicating that Palestinian lives are worth less than Israeli lives. It’s about the fact that Palestinian children are being killed at the rate of one every three days. It’s about millions of Palestinians living under illegal occupation.

It’s about the brutal siege on Gaza, and the third military assault on a trapped population in less than six years. It’s about more than 60 laws that discriminate against Palestinian citizens of Israel.

It’s about Israeli state racism and apartheid. It’s about ethnic cleansing. It’s about colonization, and over 500,000 settlers. It’s about Israel’s systematic violations of international law and Palestinian human rights.

Besides approving boycott and divestment, Unite goes the whole hog and call also for sanctions against Israel for its continued illegal occupation, flouting of international law, and construction of an apartheid regime.
http://www.redressonline.com/
http://www.redressonline.com/2014/07/wanted-new-strategy-for-palestinian-resistance/
http://www.redressonline.com/2014/07/israels-atrocity-and-the-wests-ignorance/
http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fgroups.yahoo.com%2Fneo%2Fgroups%2Fjusticeforpalestine_announce%2Fattachments%2F315541274%3B_ylc%3DX3oDMTJuOWQ1cjB0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIzNjY3Mjc0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MDM3NQRzZWMDYXR0YWNobWVudARzbGsDcGhvdG8Ec3RpbWUDMTQwNTM5NzM0NA--%3Fitemid%3D624222680&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNH2qCzffYdVCmldxnOl4BDSMazdIA

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Hi one under god

With "What if Hamas dumped all its rockets in the sea tomorrow?" and the whole post.

It shows you are capable of fair and original thought.

Oops let me take that back. Yours is a slab quote all lifted from:

http://www.redressonline.com/2014/07/what-if-hamas-dumped-all-its-rockets/

Hi Nutter. (are you sure you are comfortable with that?)

My position is, that everyone on Earth is racist, to one degree or another. Every racial, ethnic and religious group on Earth prefers to live among it's own people. People who share their values, attitudes and beliefs, and with whom they feel safe with, because of their kinship ties. There is nothing wrong with such racism. And I agree with the Greek philosopher who said that "loyalty to ones own people is the highest morality."

Now, multiculturalism is a failure. It is just like Socialism. How many times need it fail before so called "intelligent" people figure out it is a bad idea? Every war going on at the moment is a race and religious war, and usually within independent states. The only solution proposed to end the fighting is to separate the warring ethnic and religious parties into separate states. Therefore, I propose that ethnic cleansing and monoculturalism promotes world peace. "Good fences make good neighbours", as the poet ,Frost would say.

The separation of Yugoslavia into separate states was a good example. After WW2, most European countries ethnically cleansed all of their German minorities and the Germans accepted them back as "Volksdeutch." The East Europeans had proof of the widespread collaboration of ethnic Germans with the German conquerors, and they rightly considered them to be a threat to their existence. They would never consider them to ever be "Romanians, Bulgarians, Czechs, or Poles, again. In the Pacific, the USA ethnically cleansed a million Japanese from South Korea( who had lived, and who had homes and businesses there for 100 years), as a way of removing the historical Japanese military threat to Korea.

So no, I can't consider ethnic cleansing as an absolute evil.

With the threat to the existence of western civilisation in Europe from Muslim immigration now manifesting itself, the normally limp wristed Euros are coming around to thinking the unthinkable. Tolerance, and the idea that everybody from opposing beliefs can live happily ever after within the same territory, is a recipe for social suicide.

Yep Lego it is only a name.

No matter what the history. Any sort of cleansing is unjustafiable. Originally separation of the religiously different Croats and Serbs was undertaken by inserting a Muslim population and the creation of their state of Bosnia. That worked out well didn't it?

On the other hand the US is a nation of immigrants of different cultures religions and races which functions very well.

I would lean toward saying it is open, democratic societies which function with a high level of tolerance that deal with difference best.

Being loyal to ones own social group, whether cultural, ethnic, rscial or religious is not racism. Discriminating against those outside of the particular group is racism or bigotry or a lack of tolerance of difference.

Cheers