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Conservatism and climate science : Comments

By Don Aitkin, published 24/6/2014

Given that they have had virtually a monopoly of the mass media, the government and the scientific academies, doesn't that point to a fundamental problem with the 'climate change' message?

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abc is doing a puff piece
tomorrow i will use the transcript
to reveal the gentle lies[like a 'solar powerd/stadium[at night/using power from the grid[at night/only payed for by solar credits/not solar powerd/solar power subsidised oal fired night time powers

its just nsane wat hing these fools
it began with info gen/saying they powr more than half of canberra
but watch how confued it was got to that number[ie they show 20 windmills/mention 10 or so OTHER SITES/THEN SAY WE INOGINS POWER 2.3RDS CANBERRS [IE IN TOTO/NOT JUST TE 20 TURBINES SEEN

ANOTHER I RECALL A GUY USES COMPUTERS TO SELL SOLAR FROM SATILITE[IE ITS AL BUSNIESS INTSTS LOBBYING VIA THE ABC

ITS PATHETI

YEAH 20 PERCENT ReNEWABLE AND SCrew te cost
we need pay tripple /no WORRIES

OH NO NOW W GOING To power las vagus/via melted salt
yeah heating salt great way to heat the earth
just istening to the spin

clean enercy/whats with that
dirty energy/IS OUR COMPETITOR
THE MORAL SINS OF THE SPIN/;LIES
yeah its the lies i really dispise

how can 4 cents a kilowaat/from coal
offset 55 cents buy back when the sun shines
the rest of the rtime ya using coal/where is yur shame

yur solar credit/is stealing 10 fold the polution by the cot advantage to the colluders

oh here we go shutting down big coal
the stain/upon your very soul

oh poop now wind solar are pushing down the price of electricity?

screw you lying scum
Posted by one under god, Monday, 7 July 2014 8:57:01 PM
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The output of the sun over periods of thousands of years is remarkably constant but over billions of years there has been a big increase in output. The reason is simple as hydrogen is converted to helium the density increases and this speeds up the rate hydrogen is consumed until eventually most of the hydrogen is gone and things go pear shaped.

For our skeptical friends
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/07/09/claim-faint-young-paradox-solved/

Especially for you OUG
http://creation.com/young-sun-paradox

I use these links to support my case re my last post

http://faculty.wcas.northwestern.edu/~infocom/The%20Website/evolution.html

http://www.windows2universe.org/earth/Atmosphere/images/earth_rad_budget_kiehl_trenberth_1997_big.gif

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/Radiative-forcings.svg/600px-Radiative-forcings.svg.png

http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/news-events/study-finds-evidence-global-methane-release-about-600-million-years-ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoclimatology

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiative_forcing
Posted by warmair, Monday, 7 July 2014 9:32:31 PM
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hot-air/your unbelievably thick
clearly your a computer program/auto reply
that then generATES random giberish/while your creator/master controler sits beside you wathing your machinations giggling insanely

ok matethe methane melting/and this 2050 dooms day/now we are going back fowards billons of years?

.mate your using the old version/of this/that writes lying papers[only its now writing lying bloggers/which is great/cause they dont get upset/and keep posting irrelivant crap/till al'deniers l the'just/ warmist give up

im ripping great chunks OF THE GRAND-SCAM*tomorra
THE BIGGEST THING IS SELF SUFFICINCY TRUE COSTS AND night time power storage

coal costs 4 cents
solar/wind is free
how come im paying 24 cents?

its not cheaper for me
but for them with whole rooves full of solar cells/reaping in 5000
in datlight powers/to use 9000 dollars of powr at night off the grid and off dirty coal

for freak/sake microsoft claims 100 percent off the grid[or 100 percent solar/but te lie is off the grid/tomorrows transcript wil reveal.they are turning sssshit/[bio-solids]..into methane[and storing tHe methane/not the power but the neat timming of it/joins the two into a neaT soft kill lie
Posted by one under god, Monday, 7 July 2014 9:49:21 PM
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http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2014/07/07/4038488.htm

no/transcript
The Crescent Dunes\solar thermal power plant located near Tonopah, Nevada. Once completed, it will power up to 75,000 homes during peak electricity periods. www.solarreserve.com

its/funny/solar/during peak?yet night falls during peak[look at the sunset shot/in the propaganda clip/solar cells sleeping at nightfall.

its/the claim=75,000 homes/cause not one home[is fully 'suppLIED'/IE\LIE[why say once completed?/why not say curently this/future that/cause its not serving anything/usefull but cash flow

damm i want to use their own words/lies

The price of power\With Australian electricity prices amongst the highest in the world, more and more households are going solar. The big power companies say the Renewable Energy Target is undermining their businesses and they want it wound back. The federal government agrees, so who is to blame for the high price of power?

those expecting govt to rebuild/the whoLe power generaTion network

Renewable energy target:*Economic modelling shows
household bills to rise in short term,/drop long term
*Economic modelling[please/note/the ecomomists ARE/pushing this

the renewable energy target(RET)review has found that keeping the clean energy scheme would result in lower household bills over the longer term.

yes cheaper tomorrow/lol
untill inflation cycle kicks-in
[we got/real incReaees today/
besides/tomorrow*never comes]

Government Data Show U.S. in Decade-Long Cooling
http://patriotrising.com/2014/07/07/government-data-show-u-s-decade-long-cooling/

NSW energy price rises/ABC RuralThere have been massive rises in the cost of energy in New South Wales. From mid-2007 onwards, electricity has risen more than 100 per cent...[70%/IN\5-YEARS]

Most of that rise has been due to the cost of the network, the poles and wires,[rubbish[watch the vidio/note the scene/where this lie is spoken/'infastructure=solar cells and wind,ills/and gold plating to cater/to the energy peaks/when solar overloads\into te system/then the reverse as the coal/system powers up 100 percent/at night

Utilities move to kick rooftop solar off the grid | Renew Economy | 27 Jun 2014 - Utilities in Queensland are looking to limit and even stop households exporting excess electricity back into the grid from their rooftop solar panels, in a move that other Australian network operators are expected to follow - even if it does have the potential to accelerate grid defections and the so called "death spiral".
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 6:36:03 AM
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warmair, just out of curiosity I went to the site you recommended to OUG, it was very funny to say the least.
I had a look at this article...http://creation.com/a-165-million-year-surprise

The article claims to invalidate science, the planet is but 6,000 years old. Hot springs preserved creatures and shells, and Noah's flood put sediment over creatures presumably creating fossils.
It must be the case that dinosaurs perished at the time of the flood.
Why weren't dinosaurs taken on board the Ark Noah had built?
Many creatures missed the boat!!

Once the flood had abated how did creatures end up on the Galapagos Islands or Australia? Hell, you could write a book about all the questions raised.

The logic of Creationists just doesn't make sense; yet, people with these notions are against the view of anthropogenic climate change.
Posted by ant, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 11:44:26 AM
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Ant
All good bible students know that the flood started at 1656 AM. Therefore the lizards were too cold to get on the ark.

http://answersingenesis.org/bible-timeline/timeline-for-the-flood/
Posted by warmair, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 12:45:16 PM
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