Ant,

Quick question: do you agree there has been a haitus --yes or no?

Or are you in the same camp as Sergeant of the Guard Steele-Schultz:"I see nothing, and I know nothing"
http://hh.wikia.com/wiki/Hans_Schultz?file=Sgt._Schultz.jpg

Loe my best subjects at school were Physics, Chemistry and Mathematics, I well understand how they work. The steps for the physical sciences are observation, explanation and prediction and to back to the start again. This is the traditional scientific method which I would hope you are well aware of. There are no proofs that any particular theory or explanation is correct, predictions lead to new observations which may either support the theory, reject it, or are uncertain. Pure mathematics on the other can produce absolute proofs provided the initial information is correct.

Climate science has progressed a long way and we now have a pretty clear idea how radiation controls surface temperature. The observations and the theory both agree close enough to enable us to make reasonably accurate weather forecasts. Yet you are happy to dismiss the same theories when applied to the probable effects of adding GHGs to the atmosphere.

Frankly your views on climate change are politically tainted. It is clear from some of the links you provide that you will uncritically accept any link which supports your view point

SPQR,

The "hiatus" is in "surface air temperature"...not in ocean warming - all part of our complex planetary climate system.

In any case, pointless to discuss climate change around here with deniers purveying junk-science peppered with ad hominem.

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to..dis*cuss.climate change around\here/with deniers>>

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HOT-AIR/ROTE\QUOTE..<<<<..my best\subjects/..The steps\for the physical*sciences/are observation,/explanation..and prediction..>>

the-fools/best*subject..lol.
and..he gets/the orders-wrong'lol
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his*orders/wrong\THE/nong*/dont-belong/

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do the research/really\do/try to grasp/the numbers
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THING IS/THEY\BEEN 17 YEARS...going the\wrong way
listen yo..ignorants*refute what monkton says
http://rss.infowars.com/20140703_Thu_Alex.mp3

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how droll
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<>>This is the traditional scientific method

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u/SCIENCE-ILLITERATES/MATE..YA JUST..CRACK-ME/UP.

SPQR, your comment about me being like Sgt Schultz, ""I see nothing, and I know nothing"" is a good one.
How many deniers have brought up the matter of reindeer virtually getting bogged in snow in Finland, how many have written about Inuit culture being impacted, how many have discussed erosion of coastlines in Alaska, what about thermokarst lakes and failure, health concerns raised through epidemiological assessments etc etc.
I have tried to stay with the pragmatics of climate change, all these matters and more have been raised here on Onlineopinion.
There have hardly been any nibbles in relation to the spreading of illnesses created through climate change. Nobody has picked up on fish being caught off Greenland that are associated with warmer waters further South. The same is happening off the East Coast of Australia.

Last month the temperature where I live was 1.5C above normal for day time, and .9C for night time. While we have only just begun July, the day time above average is 1.8C, and night time is 3.3C above normal.
It doesn't prove climate change, but certainly shows that weather can vary a lot; when temperature taken over a number of years that shows climate change. Weatherzone is a good site to pick up weather forecasts, it also gives information about temperature, and rainfall averages for a month.

http://www.weatherzone.com.au/

SPQR, I'm aware of what has been termed the hiatus since Matt England wrote a paper about how the ocean was picking up a significant amount of warmth.
Climate change is a complex subject there are literally thousands of peer reviewed papers written about it; there are very few professional papers written against climate change. All major National Science bodies believe it is occurring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88jEdz7OGx0&list=UUBqZtL-ZnhP0EeNadeHGP-w

Leo
Below is a more elegant description of the point I was trying to make.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/200811/common-misconceptions-about-science-i-scientific-proof

OUG
The staring point is an observation otherwise there is nothing to explain.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Scientific+proof
Quote
scientific method
n.
The principles and empirical processes of discovery and demonstration considered characteristic of or necessary for scientific investigation, generally involving the observation of phenomena, the formulation of a hypothesis concerning the phenomena, experimentation to demonstrate the truth or falseness of the hypothesis, and a conclusion that validates or modifies the hypothesis.

Ant
You may not be that trilled by weatherzone when you look at some of views expressed on their forums by climate deniers. Anyway the Bom site is better in all respects and for the most part weatherzone is only collating their info. Try
http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/awap/temp/index.jsp?colour=colour&time=latest&step=0&map=maxanom&period=12month&area=nat