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Abbott, Obama and the new battle over climate agenda : Comments
By Benjamin Jones, published 13/6/2014If Howard and Bush were in ideological harmony, Obama and Abbott are near polar opposites in many crucial regards.
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I seem to remember that Mr Rudd said that the gw religion was the greatest moral challenge of the century. Oh thats right then he changed his mind as did Gillard. What a farce. Abbott should of always stood by his original statement.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 14 June 2014 7:56:40 PM
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And hook, line and sinker......Runner..your a gem:)
People, there is no battle over climate change, and we all know it. We have "Leo Lane" with his "everything will be all right" which in translation means......I am the ship and the left are just the rudder....what a crock! Kat Posted by ORIGINS OF MAN, Saturday, 14 June 2014 11:22:29 PM
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yep the credibility of 'science' has gone down the toilet since large sums of cash have corrupted any sense of accountability among the alarmist. Consensus science yeah!
Posted by runner, Saturday, 14 June 2014 11:51:04 PM
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Climate change is about science but it is being subverted into a political matter. It is interesting in the US that politicians who support the fossil fuel industry obtain around three times the amount in donations than those who believe in climate change. Fossil fuel interests provide misinformation as indicated by:
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/solutions/fight-misinformation/global-warming-skeptic.html Some people have posted that climate scientists should be taken to Court for perpetrating fraud; here is an interesting situation where it is working the other way. http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/05/19/3439048/insurance-climate-class-action-flood/ American Physical Society says: "The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring. If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth’s physical and ecological systems, social systems, security and human health are likely to occur. We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now." Quote from NASA which lists other peak scientific bodies which support anthropogenic climate change. The fundamental premise that climate change deniers suggest is that carbon dioxide has no influence on warming; it is not what the professional people are saying - Physicists. http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus Abbott and other deniers know better than US and International Scientific bodies: http://opr.ca.gov/s_listoforganizations.php Posted by ant, Sunday, 15 June 2014 9:38:37 AM
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Ant: "American Physical Society says:
"The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring. If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth’s physical and ecological systems, social systems, security and human health are likely to occur. We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now." " You may be interested to know that the APS is having second thoughts. Read more in article below, that opens with: "The American Physical Society (APS) has signalled a dramatic turnabout in its position on "climate change" by appointing three notorious climate skeptics to its panel on public affairs (POPA)." American Physical Society Sees The Light: Will It Be The First Major Scientific Institution To Reject The Global Warming 'Consensus'? http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/03/20/American-Physical-Society-Sees-The-Light-Will-It-Be-The-First-Major-Scientific-Institution-To-Reject-The-Global-Warming-Consensus Posted by Raycom, Sunday, 15 June 2014 1:12:46 PM
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As does any fraud-backer, ant ignores the science. There is no science which demonstrates any measurable effect of human emissions on climate. If there is any such science, ant has no knowledge of it, but she fraudulently supports the baseless AGW assertion. I drew her attention to the science, which is that the human effect is trivial, and does not have the significance necessary for scientific notice. Despite what she says, ant ignores science. If her basis is not political, she should tell us what it is, because she has no science to support her position. She has cited the NCA Report, which is not science. Here is a helpful commentary on this document, in case it is mistaken for science.
“The White House recently released its latest “National Climate Assessment.” It is 841 pages of outlandish claims that reflect the lies generated by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. When you consider that the federal government spends an estimated $2.6 billion annually in grants for climate research, about the only beneficiaries are those “scientists” employed to further the hoax. The UN’s IPCC was created in 1983 and has issued a series of reports whose sole intention has been to frighten people around the world with claims of global warming that are scientifically baseless.” http://blog.heartland.org/2014/05/the-slow-sure-death-of-climate-change-lies/ Posted by Leo Lane, Sunday, 15 June 2014 2:31:24 PM
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