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Abbott, Obama and the new battle over climate agenda : Comments

By Benjamin Jones, published 13/6/2014

If Howard and Bush were in ideological harmony, Obama and Abbott are near polar opposites in many crucial regards.

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Any article that postulates the '97% of climate scientists agree' argument in support of their position is immediately compromised and there is no point in reading further. This idiocy has been so thoroughly discredited, so long ago, that the author is completely out of the loop in examining the issue. To make such a wholly un-scientific and inaccurate statement is really disheartening.
Posted by Prompete, Friday, 13 June 2014 8:36:49 AM
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The very morning this article is published, it is contradicted by the MSM reports of a cordial meeting between Abbott and Obama.

And that's without bothering to deal with the writer's monumental ignorance and wishful thinking on the global warming issue itself.

What a dunce.
Posted by cato, Friday, 13 June 2014 10:15:46 AM
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Don't forget there are lot of people making a living our of the Global Warming scaremongering.

The Banks and Wall St want the ETS and carbon taxes so they can make money out of a new derivative at our expense again.Our whole system is a corrupt sham with too few owning too much.
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 13 June 2014 10:56:47 AM
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Well, when someone is the suppository of all wisdom, its hard to convince them of a contrary view.
Best to wait until there's enough incontrovertible evidence to prove or disprove a theory, no matter how popular?
Perhaps if we wait until the sea levels have risen by around 3 metres, we will have enough evidence to convince the professional skeptics?
Skepticism is no bad thing, given all human advancement was only made possible, by robust debate and the exchange of ideas.
Until we have that incontrovertible evidence, what harm could ensue, if we opted for cheaper than coal energy, that was small enough as mass produced modules, to be sited adjacent to the industrial estates of the future, thereby, further reducing industrial energy costs, by an additional half!
Now, the price gouging coal fired power industry are just not going to do this for us, nor are debt laden, economy harming foreign speculators!
Patently, and as exampled elsewhere many times over, the latter are far better tearing down than building up!
So we need to do this ourselves, regardless of the rear-guard action of the current fossil fuel industry, or the incompetent or self serving fools who also serve them?
I mean, Thorium will still need to be mined and even more thoroughly processed, and given the sheer number of small projects, at least some power co jobs! The new lithium industry, and or rare earths industries, that will also be built as part and parcel of this mining and processing industry, will do nobody any harm either!
And administrators, with an eye on the ball, will see that some of the old worked out open cut mine sites, are tailor made for the new industrial estates of the future!
I mean, what are the dissenters afraid of?
Economy and manufacturing industry building, ultra cheap power? Seriously?
That for them, equates to loss of current profits perhaps?
If there's a better reason for dissent than personal hip pocket pain, I've yet to hear it!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Friday, 13 June 2014 11:06:15 AM
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Yes Rhrosty, doctors used to bleed people when they were sick, & stomach ulcers are caused by stress, don't cha know?

Deferring to authority is a very silly idea olds mate, it usually takes more than a few goes for boffins top get anything right, & they sure aint got it right on this one yet. They aren't even close, with their eyes blinded by the bright light of research grants.

Thank god we have an Abbott to run rings around that dumb orator Obama, the yanks were silly enough to give the top job to.

If they weren't so insular, that would have seen what happened to us when we were stupid enough to give our dumb orator Rudd the job.

Isn't it pathetic that the lefties want to see yet another dumb orator Turnbull in the job.

Some people never learn.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 13 June 2014 1:22:53 PM
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Cato, of course their meeting would be kisses & hugs, what more do you expect from heads of stare these days, the order of the day is to keep the masses in their place and keep them there, or exterminate them in some unjust war somewhere , you being included in the masses, keep that in mind.
Posted by Ojnab, Friday, 13 June 2014 2:06:03 PM
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