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The right to sexual fulfilment: a privileged gunman, misogyny and social comparisons : Comments

By Rob Cover, published 26/5/2014

By any measure the Santa Barbara shooter was privileged, but apparently privilege isn't enough.

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To AJ.

Thank you for admitting that the media does have an effect on human behaviour. That is real progress. You have no idea how many times my opponents refuse to make that simple connection. Just like you and your opinions on racial equality, they toss red herrings, prevaricate, play dumb, and muddy the waters. I feel that we have already made some real progress.

Your position now appears to be, that the media can influence human behaviour, but it can't influence people to become violent. That is a contradiction. If that is not your position, have the guts to state what your position is in plain terms.

That the media can affect humans to become violent, was best illustrated by the "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" phenomenon. When this cartoon was first released, teachers all over the world were horrified to see small children karate kicking each other all over school playgrounds. When ordered to stop, most children had no idea that they were doing anything wrong. This TV cartoon show had culturally conditioned children into believing that by imitating their violent "Turtles" heroes, they were engaging in normal social interaction. In another example, the reason why the slapstick comedy "The Three Stooges" was pulled from Australian TV, was because of the incidence of children receiving serious eye injuries imitating the eye poking stunts of the "Stooges."

The link between the media and violent behaviour has been studied as much as the link between smoking and cancer. But whereas trendies like yourself can get into all sorts of self righteous poses about smoking, you studiously avert your eyes over the effect of violent media. There are now literally thousands of scientific reports positively proving the causal link. Two reports are significant. One is the 1972 report, TELEVISION AND GROWING UP, which was sponsored by the US Surgeon General. This culminated in the historic "Joint Statement" report issued by all of the medical and mental health organisations in the US Congressional hearings in 1982, which unanimously advocated that there was a causal link between the entertainment media and real life violence.
Posted by LEGO, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 3:59:50 AM
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Had this bloke been shot & killed by a bystander before he could start his rampage then the the bystander would now be the psychopath, he would be locked up for years & Rogers would be a dead hero. That's if that would have occurred in Australia. Christine Milne would be flat out writing about gun laws & how bad they are just like she does now about the rioters on Manus Island. I wonder if she is a closet psychopath ?
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 6:46:21 AM
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Reading the above posts and the ABC's Ruby Hamad rant about misogynist men, I am dismayed that everyone seems to have missed the point. I will bet a seed to a silo that the ultimate reason for Elliot Rogers demise is the conflict between his Testosterone and some mainly female hormones. I see this just from his video taken in his car. His aggressiveness = Testosterone Probably no argument, but his "baby like features" are an indicator of some female hormones.
Problem is this balance or feedback mechanism is slightly out of whack as often happens in nature, and the result is ED (erectile Dysfunction) When the force of desire builds up irrevocably with no tangible relief, you get explosive frustration. Anything can happen. That's it folks.
Posted by laz91, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 11:49:22 AM
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laz 91,
Nope, he describes himself as a compulsive masturbator and as having a very strong heterosexual sex drive, his writing and mannerisms don't strike me as effeminate as much as romantic and homoerotic, he's affecting the airs of an aristocratic dandy.
As I pointed out earlier if we take his writings at face value it's the boys he really wanted to impress, he wanted to be an aristocrat with a gorgeous blonde on his arm lording it over the ugly, the stupid and the degraded and to have kind, intelligent and romantic young men as his inner circle.
However, as I've also said repeatedly he was clearly completely insane during the writing of his memoir and shooting his videos and they seem to me to be a characterisation of his inner world, it's as if the guy sitting in the car talking is an avatar just like his beloved World Of Warcraft character.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 3:29:48 PM
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Hi AJ. Are you AWOL or just Missing in Action?

On the topic of misogyny, this author's ridiculous claim that somebody carrying a "ditch the witch" poster is indicative of right wing misogyny, is more worthy of hilarity than serious consideration. The primary transmitter of misogyny is the entertainment media.

Along with the glorification of youth gang behaviour, drug abuse, irresponsible behaviour, criminal behaviour, and the linking of violence to a strong male sexual attractiveness to women, the entertainment industry in the form of "rap" music is a strong advocate of violence towards women.

Women are labelled "hoes" and "bitches" and depicted in rap video's in a variety of degrading ways which present women are simply providers of sex and servitude. They are depicted as barely clothed body parts and nymphomaniacs. Poorly socialised, fatherless young boys, who's only window to the world is a TV set, are presented with an images of females which are utterly ridiculous, at a time when they are reaching adulthood and resenting the authority of their mothers.

It is not just titles such as "Smack My Bitch Up" by rap groups with charming names like "Know Us By Our Trail of Dead", Niggerz with Attitude", "Megadeth" and "Drug Runnerz" which advocate violence towards women. "White" rap star M&M not only wrote a song about the pleasures of raping his mother, he included misogyny as part of his stage act. He had a life size inflatable doll made who's facial features had a resemblance to his wife, Kim Mathers. This he used to punch and kick around the stage. When he wrote a song ("Kim") about murdering her, she attempted suicide.

Naturally, one would expect the older and more mature members of this industry to condemn this behaviour. Instead they applaud it. Nine Inch Nails received a Grammy in 1998 for a song about raping a woman and murdering her. Another received a Grammy for a song about murdering a woman, and then cutting her breasts off. Unsurprisingly, black women are many times more likely to be homicide victims than white females.
Posted by LEGO, Saturday, 31 May 2014 5:09:15 PM
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the left turn child porn into art because they believe their hearts are not as perverted as others. They are in denial. Imagine the treatment Rolf Harris would of received if he was a priest.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 31 May 2014 6:43:02 PM
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