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The right to sexual fulfilment: a privileged gunman, misogyny and social comparisons : Comments
By Rob Cover, published 26/5/2014By any measure the Santa Barbara shooter was privileged, but apparently privilege isn't enough.
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An update is that his parents were concerned and did contact police and he was in therapy.
Posted by Wolly B, Monday, 26 May 2014 11:49:38 AM
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Wolly,
It also supports the theory that he was actually a repressed homosexual and that all this talk of wanting the sexual love of a woman is just, as we say "squid ink". So let's have some fun with this, if Rob Cover is taking Rodger seriously then let's play along and try the same thought experiment. In his writings Elliot repeatedly describes his experiences with straight pornography and the idea of putting his penis in a woman's vagina as horrifying and disgusting. In fact he barely describes the girls who "tormented" him and spins this almost homoerotic tale of what most of us would recognise as romantic love between males. In fact when he describes his, shall we say infatuation with an older boy, a French exchange student Elliot reports that upon visting him at home in France he is shattered to learn that his beloved Max has degraded himself by having sex with girls his own age. There are multiple scenarios in the manifesto which play out in this fashion, it's bizarre in the sense that he adopts the identity of the aristocrat, the "perfect gentleman" and it would appear that he wanted a woman at his side more as a way of gaining access to the "cool" boys. See Elliot is expressing a cliched, comical Victorian sensibility, the "perfect" gentleman is virile and commands the sexual love of women but he doesn't kiss and tell and as a romantic and an intellectual there's always this mystique about his relationships with other men of his station. Elliot hates braggarts and "studs", he's above that sort of thing so to be openly "Gay" is to be associated with promiscuity, sexual transgression and a lower social caste, he wants the quiet, exclusive love of his chums and at the same time the social status of a beautiful female consort. It's all pretty straightforward stuff. Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 26 May 2014 11:59:17 AM
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http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/misanthropy
I've not read in detail but my impression is that misanthropy might be concept that Rob could have a think about. R0bert Posted by R0bert, Monday, 26 May 2014 12:14:32 PM
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Jay Of Melbourne,
Interesting theory, sadly the media cherry picks what so called "facts" it reports, then pitches it in a way to appeal to the emotional hooks. It is also reported that this male also fantasised about killing his parents Posted by Wolly B, Monday, 26 May 2014 12:16:21 PM
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While this is a very sad event, the author the leaves out a very important point in regards to the changes toward the expectation of sex and the sexualisation of culture. It begins before Porkys and other popular culture; it begins with the radicals of the 1960/70s. The overturning of conservative values in the 1960/70s by the post-structuralist thinkers broke down traditional views of relationships and placed 'free love' at centre-stage. The feminists, Foucault, Judith Butler, and a myriad of other thinkers degraded the family unit, degraded sex before marriage, and degraded sexual repression. A strong desire for one's sexual fulfilment and expectation was normalised here by the post-structuralists and any repression of the sex drive was supposedly a conservative, misogynistic plot designed to keep women in their place.
The good Associate Professor is either ignorant of this massive cultural change or is being deceptive. I know it is fashionable in 'cultural studies' and social science research to carve every phenomena up into categories of sex/gender, race/ethnicity, and class, and then analyse them in regards to how one sex or race or class is oppressing the other (usually of men oppressing women, whites oppressing non-whites, and the bourgeois oppressing the workers), but this approach is very limited. It doesn't allow for analysing phenomena outside these categories. The good Associate Professor would do well to undertake further research on this, dating back to the post-structuralists and their rancour toward any kind of supposed unfair 'power structure', particularly those related to sexual repression. I know this would probably end up with you making many enemies in the academic world, as denouncing the post-structuralists in academia is like a Christian committing blasphemy, but the truth is more important, don't you think? Posted by Aristocrat, Monday, 26 May 2014 12:55:34 PM
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One section of my reply above should say "degraded waiting until marriage for sex" and not "degraded sex before marriage".
Posted by Aristocrat, Monday, 26 May 2014 12:58:17 PM
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