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Plain packaging does more harm than good : Comments

By David Leyonhjelm, published 5/5/2014

But while it failed to reduce smoking rates, plain packaging has led Australia into a legal minefield.

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IN THE FUTURE..ciggies will be free..or less
wanna hear more..do the math..road raGE..IS A THING SMOKING HELPS

OR see taxi stands less stresss if everyone has a free smokE
SMOKING KEeps the peace in jails..its a shasme some were too QUICK/TO FOLLOW ORders/s a

but here do the math
smoking=an addiction..IF GOVT PAYS OUTS..to big business... ITS JUST CAUSe they got shares alrerady...*so cLEARY ANY FAIR SETTLEMENT..MUST RETURN THE DEBT TO US WHO PAID IT..AND WHat more just that govt now subsidise us our smoking/by bying theM OFF THE SERVICe provider..RECIEVING ITS ANUAl BILL..FOR PROVIDING US OUR SUCCOR
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 10 May 2014 11:41:23 AM
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For all your posts uog, You can't deny the fact that;

Personally;
Smoking looks awful.
Smells awful.
tastes awful.

Environmentally;
Filthy gutters.
Filthy footpaths.
Filthy parks.
Kills birds.
Kills fishes.
Kills people.
kills small animals.

Costs;
Costs personal health.
Costs 3rd persons health.
Costs Health Care System.
Costs in clean-up.
Costs family finances.
Costs time off from productive work.

Benefits;
0

I'm sure there are a lot more downsides to smoking for no gain what-so-ever.

If you have a health problem caused by smoking you should have to pay for your treatment with no health care rebate what-so-ever.

From my T-shirt:
"It's OK if you disagree with me. I can't force you to be right." ;-)
Posted by Jayb, Saturday, 10 May 2014 12:09:24 PM
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JABBY/quote<<.You can't deny.the fact that;

JABBY/SPeaking//><<.Personally;
Smoking looks awful.>>

i will pass that onto the malBRO MAN

<<..Smells awful.>>

TASTES GREAT

<..tastes awful.>
SMOKE\MEnTHOL

Presumably..<<..Environmentally;
Filthy gutters.>>..boy you didnt live IN THE TIME OF OPEN SEWERS
or horse pooP..BUT I LIVE IN HIll's..our gutters are SPOTLESS AND spotless..apart from the oiL STAINS..brake/DUST particulate and TYRE PEBBLES

<<.Filthy footpaths.>>..oh yeah..
yes i haTE...vomit/dog-poop/blooD STAINS AND URINE TOO...
..BUT HOW..CAN WE FORCE THE MONgrels to pay sin taxeS.

<<PARKS>>...ALL that dog cat poop and broken botle busted swings
GRAPHITIED SLIDES AND HAlf burnt shed
ll
<<..Kills birds.>>yes i often have the fall at my feet
BUT YES SERIOUSLY/THE OTHER DAY O SAW A DEAD PEEWEE/PLUS A DEAD Magpie/but didn't realise it was me that KILLED THEM /AT THE TIME/

silly me i presumed someone baited them
[IE..they...ATE THE DOG BAITS]

<<..Kills fishes.>>

ok..im going to presume..you taking about all them CIGGIE BUTTS/IN THE GUTTERS..WELL I HAVE PICKED UP 1000'S..ONCE THEY GET WET/all the nicotine HAS ESCAPED..[and as for tobacco/there are many more poisonous plants out there//BUT MOST OF THE BUTS NEVER SE THE WATER

and im presuming.having picked up A FEW SOGGY BUTTS THAT THEY DISSOLVE INTO FIBERS/FILTERS..REGARDLESS I HAVE NEVER SEEN Photoes/of a birds guy filed with buts/sure every other form of poastIC.BUT NOT BUTTS

PLEASE PRESENT PRoof of thesis
so far it seems highly biased/ANYTHING YOU SAY BUTS COULD DO ISNT BACKED UP WITH BUTTS IN GUTS/AND FAR MORE POISEN THAT BUTS EXIST.[GO FIGURE..EH BLUEY?}

<<kiLLs people>>..prove that
cancer rates are the same/THUS SMOKING ISNT A FACTOR
THUS THEY ';said;..PASSIVE Smoking..but regardless look at the stats
SAME RATES REGARDLESS OF SMOKING STATUS/fact is most asbestos.is miss diagnosed/as [attributed]..to smoking/because insurers DONT WANT TO PAY OUT ASBESTOS CAused death/so better they blame me/screw you.

<<..kills small animals.>>
present proof/i have tried to get mice
to eat ciggie buts/BUT AT BEST THEY LICK OFF THE BAIT
None eat the butts/its so easy to generalize..present proof/AUTOPSY PROOF?..PRESENT IT OR GO JUMP..

the world is buit on sin taxes..IT WORKED WITH SMOKERS TAXES
THUS THEY TRIED IT ON WITH CARBON TAXES..GUILT LIES FRAUD SCIENCE
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 10 May 2014 4:26:13 PM
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Nothing like going for a good night out coming home & licking the bottom out of a dirty ol' used ashtray. Getting up in the morning & cleaning out the bottom of the Cocky's cage with ya tongue eh.

MMMM mmmm Hu..uh! De...licious. Yum! If it works for you uog, it works for you.
Posted by Jayb, Saturday, 10 May 2014 4:45:24 PM
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HUGE/LIES..=bigger taxES..[BIGGER SINS=BIGGER/TAX-TAKE

..;..WEAPONS..OF....MASS*DETRACTION
<<..Nothing/like going..for..a good-night/out..coming home..&..licking\the bottom..out/of..a..dirty ol'...usedashtray.>>

never/been..broke..enough..to\do..*that
it..dont sound..kosher..../NO/WONDER..YOU\HAD TO/GIVE..IT..UP..[YUK]

<<..Getting up..in.the morning>>Slow/and\easy..with..the new-squeeze
AND...THERE YOU ARE/..ON YOUR OWN/...WITH..heliotightass..

<<...& cleaning out..the bottom/of\..the Cocky's/cage...with/ya tongue..eh.>>

sorry/mate..IM..AN OLD-FASHION/GUY
i..NEVER/PUT/THE BUTT-END..NEAR..A BEDHEAD.

CONTINUED..[PREV/POST]

..NEXT-THING..WE*.GOT A tax..On salt*
or..a tax..on\booze..or/sugar..white/rice../WHITE-Flour..ETC

MATE..Its/ALL\about..[DIVIDE..AND..CONQUER]
TO../HAVE US*all/ARGUING..WITH..EACH-OTHER..SO..THE/real..EVIL SCUMM..GETS THEIR..CASH-COW..BAILOUTS/\*CHUM...

just/WAIT..soon/govt\TO..will..PUT DEMONIC/VISIONS
OF HEll..on ya..bottle/of\booze..or/ya..CHIPPIES/OR\sweeties

its coming..ya mug
plan/a..=...tax_us..to_death.

<<Costs;>>lol

YOU POOR..PEOPLE..CANT\AFFORD IT*..too bad.
YOU/GOT..'PENus envy'?../if\your broke\..dont smoke*...

[OR..D0-AS..I DO PICK*..just/EM UP/..MIX WITH..A FEW\OTHER HERBS SPICES/tea mango-flowers..SOME/CHOP-CHOP..and..bobs ya uncle.[one saterN-day nigHT-RUN/..PAYS FOR..THE SMOKE/BLOKE..[FOr free/4\the week].

let..me be/..why keep..picking..on us.ya.muggins
HOW..WOULD YOU LIKE..YOUR TIPPLE..TO/TRIPPLE..BooZehound?

<<...Costs/personal health.>>
i..save heaps..because insurance..wont insure me...BESIDES
HEALTH..IS PERSONAL/..BUTT_OUT/OF...MY BUSINESS..please.

<<Costs/3rd persons..health.>>
Wtf..2 DE PERSON=PASSIVE-SMOKING...[masybe]
but..WTF-3rd,,person..health/?\.GO-buy/ya\own.

<<..COSTS/HEALTH SYSTEM>>>
800 MILLION/THats-IT

YET..WE..collectivly]RAISE 40 TIMES/THAT..WHAT WE COST/
THEN..WHEN WE..go..DIE..*WE DIE..[OR ARE/KILLED]..FAST

<<>Costsin clean-up.>>
yes we pay..the costs TO INSULT US..AND FILL US WITH FEAR.TOO
WE PAY for everything/because we arnt human.[Collectively..we\rate..LOWER/THAN SCUM]

<<Costs family finances.>>
POOR PEOPLE..CAN GET FREE..CHEMICALS FROM Big pharma
adverse REACTION..TO PRESCRIBED MEDS=1 IN 100 HOSPITAL ADMISSIONS
one in ten..results in DEATH..[THAT'S PRESCRIBED MEDS..killing thousands/and proving what/?/..get rid of prescribed MEDS?

<<..>>Costs time off from productive work.>>>
i never took off..a day/belly same\
WHEN HE SMOKED/....SMOKERS DONT GET SIck/..thats why quacks hate us

<<Benefits;>>
instead of tearing..OFF PEOPLES HEADS/..ANGRILY..\
I LIGHT UP AND FEEL PITY..IT BENEFITS ME....BECAUSE WITHOUT SMOKES I WOULD BE VERY ANGRY..aT/EVERY..SILLY\LITTLE..THING..LIKE OTHERS BAD HABITS.

<<>>If you..have a health problem>>
YOU OBESE..OVER eating diabetics..or drunks needing livers
OR..YOU BlUDGERS..WHO get sick/DIE..at work..

PAY UP YA BLUDGERS
you should..have to pay..for your.own/treatment..
not/me..paying\for yoU..plus/everyone elses TOO..

SCREW THE LOT OF YOU.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-09/interactive-budget-2013-where-will-your-tax-go/4682404
federal/health\budget2013.
EXposes/the 32 billion[social-COST]Lie

Medical-services...and benefits...$25.6 billion
Hospital.service...$2.8 billion
National-Health..Reform/Payment..$13.9 billion
Pharmaceutical-benefits..and services..$11.1 billion

Aboriginal..and Torres Strait/Islander health..$851 million
Health services..$7.1 billion
General administration..$3.3 billion
[smokers total/med\cost-800 MILLION]..why the lies?

<<>>with no health care/rebate..what-so-ever>>
.sespite/paying for ALL OF IT....because you obese..fat slobS..DRINK/
eat/screw..far.TOO MUCH..[in our opinion]...[lol]../HOW\droll/get a real-job]

I can't force you..*WHY THE;FREAK,,do..YOU..LOT
INSIST..ON Forcing..YOUR CRAPP..sin-tAX
biased/JUDGMENTS...on ME..?;-)..BIGOTed?

HOW MANY..*REFORMED-SMOKERS*
HAve...no sign..0f sMoking/DAMAGE..after..ONLY..one/two years\..ABSTENTION.

please../ask\..thyself..*wHY*?

WOULD..\..SPECIAL*interests..\..lobbie..lie?
foR SURE*..THEY/DID../AND\..WILl..LIE/AGAIN AND AGAIN..to/INDUCE pain.

who/gains\..PUTTINg..it siMply..lied.
DAMAGES../.WILL*BE.\.HUGE..TALK IS CHEAP...no/facts..only hATE/SPITE/OPINION

GET/educated\please
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/05/enron-2-0-wall-street-wants-manipulate-state-energy-markets-just-like-manipulates-every-market.html
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2009/09/credit-rating-agencies-took-bribes-for-higher-ratings.html
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/unsealed-documents-expose-morgan-stanley-forcing-rating-agencies-inflate-ratings
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304830104575172280848939898.html?mod=WSJ_Markets_MIDDLETopNews

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/03/lehman-fraudulently-cooked-its-books-accounting-giant-ernst-young-helped-geithner-and-bernanke-winked-and-slapped-them-on-the-back.html

Its/not\..our odious debt..its a YOURS.
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 10 May 2014 6:34:04 PM
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bah...its tax time again
huge further tREASONS
[THEY SOLD THE ROYAL MINT*[THAT SHOULD BE BEYOND PRICCE
AND HOLDS PROOFG AGAINST THE QUEENS COINS DEGASEMENT/

THEY GOT A NEW SLUSH FUND FOR BIG PHARMA
they ALL GOT THEIR WISHes come true

permanent higher burden/TAXES ON PO0R SCHOOL KIDS/
temporary TAX ON THE RICH]

A WAGE FREEZE OFFERED/
refused by some insiders /setting sky high polly pay/passed on to the public serVICE

THE PRIVATE PENSION SLush fund..worth 120 bilion
HOLDING OUR COMMONWEALTH BANK AND TELSTRA BOOTy

plenty of real cash in that slush fund

then juliars slusH FUND FOR GREENIES
NOW the big pharma slush fUND TO HIDE THE CURE FOR CANCER

[SEE REICJES VIBRATION/ITS KILLED EVERY DISEWASE/ALL CANCERS INSTANTLY

BUT BIG PHARMA LOVES REPEAT CUSTOm
and by getting non patentable nicoteen into chewing gum got ricjes beyOND IMAGINING SINCE COKE CROTHERS PUT SUGER and cocain into water

ANYHOW the public servants cASH COW/THAT STOLE OUR ASSETS
OS WELL OVER ...=twice the claimed outstanding debt

AND the fed debt=one third queenslanders debt
but they got cuts thus wil demand cst jumpS UP

THEY think..they BEAT 6 OF MAY JUDGMENT DAY
little knowing the judging goes on

sack thE GOVT..ITS WHOLESALE TREASON..GLOBAlly
it gavE THE ELITES EVERYTHING THEY ALLWAYS WANTED//THE ROYAL mint/big pharma SLUSH FUNDS..insurance top up fee..LEVIES ..ITS HIGH TREASON

THERE IS A PROTEST DAY IN USA 14 MAY?
judgment day marc 2

and worse thing..no mention..of our 12point5 percent/increase in SMOKING TAX*..we got screwed without credit/of our extra 3 bilion

buT DONT RATE EVEN A MENTION
PLUS ALL THEM OTHER TAXES TOO/the average tax is 3000
us smokers pay just that on sMoking..PLUS YOURS..WERE TWICE AS FAR DOWN THE Rat hole
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=16263&page=0
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 9:10:50 AM
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