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Plain packaging does more harm than good : Comments

By David Leyonhjelm, published 5/5/2014

But while it failed to reduce smoking rates, plain packaging has led Australia into a legal minefield.

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And, when I see a smoker I usually remark, there's a sucker on the end of every one of those.
Some have worked out, if they could have saved the money they sent up in smoke, over say twenty years, with their dirty stinking habit, they could have bought a house!
A neighbor still living with his mum, well into his fifties, and became just another emphysema statistic, unable to walk to the front door with chest heaving, with short very labored, rapid painful breathing!
His house not only went up in smoke, but his life became a virtual living hell, courtesy of a product, more addictive than heroin!
If only we could send people like him, or a mother who had to be permanently connected to a life saving oxygen line, during the last three years of her life, to school to tell the kids just how they got that way, (honestly).
And how they had to be accompanied by a 24/7 carer, afraid to sleep, least he/she stop breathing!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Monday, 5 May 2014 4:57:38 PM
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I really meant to add in to my post that all self inflicted injury, such as; Illegal Drugs, abuse of Legal Drugs, Alcohol related illness, attempted Suicide, The persons themselves & the Company producing those products causing illness or injury must be made to pay for any treatment administered.

I don't care if you don't agree with me. I can't force you to be right. On my new T-shirt. ;-)
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 5 May 2014 7:56:42 PM
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It is just so typical of all governments to stuff things up as they generally draw their talent from those who the corporate sector bypassed.

As an example, had the government back in 2010 or so said something like, from the year 2013, any wholesaler or retailer must posses a license to sell tabacco products and the license fee starts at $200,000 annually and increases as per the volume they sell.

This would have not infringed on the manufacturers rights, would not have caused the confusion plain packaging has caused in the retail sector and, as the fee would have most definitely been 'passed on' it would have curbed smoking. Of cause it would only have worked if they fixed the loople in the online GST fiasco.
Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 6 May 2014 6:37:24 AM
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What governments need to decide, is do they want to stop smoking, or don't they.

There are several angles they can choose that won't see them being sued.

They can ban smaokng from any public place, full stop.

They can ban smoking from all workplaces, full stop.

They can ban smoking from any clubs, full stop.

They can ban smoking from any moving vehicle, as dropping a lit smoke on ones lap would be far more distracting than using a mobile in hand while driving.

In fact, governments can ban smoking from anywhere other than a persons own private property so that the minute anyone steps out their gate with a lit cigarete they can be finned.

Of cause they won't, because they rely so heavily on the tax revenue.

As with many things now, it's a double edged sword.
Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 6:43:00 AM
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ITS TIME TO SUE.. G govt has no mandate to mandate health nor moraity
nor to prevent fools from kiing them selves/nor braindamaging themself/unti tHEY CANT BE SHOWN..TO BE ABLE TO CARE FOR THEMSELF

TILL THEN GOVT HAS No right
unles i hurt mY SELF [FOR SURE]
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY DONT HURT OTHER

THE TOOBACO LAWS ARE WITHOUT VALID ROOT/its an orphane proof of nanny state MORAL POLICING/MUCH LIKE THE DRUG WAR OL mate//

point being talk to me..im ready to sue/even big tobacco/as well as the others that colluded this majopr crimE/AND BEGOTTEN UNLAWFULL WEALTH/BY LYING ABOUT HEALTH/THEN TAXING US TO DEATH/BY COLLUSION

THEY..are trying it ON YET AGAIN/WITH THE GREEN Scam
cause look how well redicule and guiolt DID IT LAST TIME/NEW TAX STREAM/WHAT THE NEXT GUILT RAX CASH COW?

sue
get me a lawyer/barrISTER.LETS GET IT FIXED.
I HAVE THE PROOF/JUST IN THEIR OWN creations/their faked photos[IN THE EARLIEr years/pluss the colluSIONS AND FAked 'in confidence/settlemeNT/BUT THE GUIIT was on both sides so big tobacco wont sue
IN FACT THEY LOVE HOW THE SALES STAY CONFIDENT

WHY
BECAUSE WE feel instant relief.
without the pill 'SIDE AFFECT/thing..[READ ADVERSE REACTION]

PLEASE CALL ME LETS SUE/we begin with roxanne..[aND HER CRONIES]..HOW THEY Picked her/used ther father memory to raise more money.

call me
URGENTLY/
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 9:09:12 AM
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Arround 4 ;06..on the now program/9 NEWS BRISSIE
a woman/from malborn..has stated a lie[infering its the ony cause of cancer and quoting a fuihURE BIGGER THAT 800 MILLION[THe true cost of smoking medical cosTS

BY THE TUME WE GET SICK/WE ARE RIDLED WITH CANCER DYING AT THE TOPs 3 months..like i sais before just sHOOT US

PS THE STORY HINGES ON HIS DAUGhter offerd a smOKE AND SMOKING [DARING TO TAK TO A SMOKER.PICK ON ME..YA MUGS.its time we BEGANB SUING INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE

HOW CAN I HOD THE WOMAN TO AXCCXOUNT FOR HER LIES?
THE DAMAGES ARE HUGE AND GOING TO ONLY GET BIGGER
JUst ike the drug 'war'..decared by rogue lmoralist govt busy bpDDIES PROFITEERING FROM THE NANNY STATE

ITS TIME THEY WWRE HELD TO ACCOUNT
but who?..FROM AL SIDES WE HAVE BEEN BETRAYED.
THEY GOT THEIR PEople in the smoke machine/and closed SO MANY LITTLE PROVIDERS DOWN/UNTILL THERE WERE BUT A FEW/THEY HELD CONTROLING INTREST OVER/THEN THE ACCOUNTAnts cave the lawyers a showdown/and we got a guilt tax

A GUILT TAX
RECALL CHANDI HAD A TAX ON SALT
HE GREW HIS OWN..walked to the sea..lit a fire under a CUP OF SEA WATER[WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO expose all the ies we must begin suing/real people

I GAVE YOU ONE PLACE TO BEGIN
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 4:17:21 PM
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