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Plain packaging does more harm than good : Comments

By David Leyonhjelm, published 5/5/2014

But while it failed to reduce smoking rates, plain packaging has led Australia into a legal minefield.

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/not ony avoiding taxes BUT SUPPING OFF THE PUBLIC TEATS..[only those in the know know how to find]..

EVERYTHING IS TAX FREE/.SO YOU LOOSE GOOSE/KEEP YA FEATHER/ARNT YOU TO CLEVER..no appaRENT/need to explain..AND I HAVE NO NEED TO KNOw.

the anti smoking lies go on..heard some big ones/silly ones even clever ones..but heck..it looks like the new sin taxes will come to you too all to soon..try your own [species..jaBBY]

NOW WHERE IS THAT nite-NURSE..ANTISMOKING..YOU GOT NO IDEA WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT..YOU..fail to see the rising cancer rates and the lowering rate of smoking mean you fuixing the wrong sickness.

cars are the biggest killers
booze comes number one or number two..jobs 3
next comes suggars/white flour white rice refined grains..even de ionised salt

the truth is emeergin..but soon we all will be suing
the individuqal doing the lying...[its time*]

could have saved many talking heads
just the last week/for lying..but heck i will let you have your own joy of discovery...

Go eat a tube of toothpaste/white teeth mean brain dead.
http://www.naturalblaze.com/2014/06/the-lancet-fluoride-is-neurotoxin.html

ignorance of the law..is no excuse
disobeying a bad oprder is a mnoral impreitive
but weak scummy folk need to cast blame oN ME THE FILTHY SMOKER]
SOMEHOW MAKING ME THE EVIL ONE//MAKES SAINTS FROM THE REST OF YOU...I WILL PAY MY TAX CAUSE GOVT HAS FRIGHTEND THE SHOPKEEPERS LIVELYHOOD TO EXTRACTING..IT FROM ME FOR YOU....ONE FOR THE MARFIA/LET THOSE WHO GAIN THE ADVANTAGE BEAR THE COst..

I REPEAT SAY HOW I HURT YOU
i will explain how your driving your methonol auto is making all of us sick.[the same ratios..smoking/non smoking..means.smoknig isnt a cause..thats why lawyers say 'attriutable'..cause they do..attriute/to the wrong causes

BUT ITS IGNORED..SO WHY BOTHER..I WILL ALLOW YOU IGNORANTS[LAWFULL TERM = IMBISILES]..YOUR FUN..[but one day you will find it was all lies..and we abused declared war on bY OUR OWN GOVT/WILL NOT EVEN GET SORRY/LET ALONE OOOPS..BECAUSE ITS ALL INTENTI0NAL.

I REPLIED ..the slur..but you think you know it all
yet science has not-only its thesus..but lost its objectivity.
Posted by one under god, Monday, 16 June 2014 9:03:30 AM
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no one revised the numbers/based on bad science
[on your karma lies the death of 6 monkies..killed to make statistics/by fraud and lie

set the scENE..6 apes TAPED INTO GAS MASKS[FULL FACE TO YOUR DISCRACE]
THESE..sealed gas masks hooked ypo to a 'smoking'-machine..pumping in pure c02..into the apes sealed in gas mask's[its your guit/this far they wil go/totax your peTTY SINS.

sure they 'died'..of smoking..but by assfixiation
not any drug//[see toobacco smoke is gramm-negative/unlike the petro-emmision of say diesal[the biggest cause of lung sickness/]thus ignore any proof of your govt induced bias...too cever by haLF
what the next bias/FATTIERS DRUNKS DRIVERS AUTO..NO KNOW ITS CARBON CREDITS

first the guilt/SHAME\BLAME
then the cure/a nice new tax paying for a nice slush fund
then buy off the media with bilions in advertising/and media complicity..[BAH]..YOU DONT WANT SMOKERS..fine say the hell out of my life.

i have allready set new topic.s
im content to let/ignorent\pay..their own rent
to let you foils/with nothing better to do\.. blow yourselves up/with your own poisen..[when my pain becomes too heavey..i just go.

good riddance..to bad rubbiSH
[TO WHICH CLEVER TARDS WILL SAY//COULD..have said it better.
AND THEY COULD WELL HAVE/BUT IT DIDNT OCCURE TO THEM..THANKS BE TO FLUEride numbing down a FEW POINTS/THEN THE BOOZE AND YOUR PILLS/NO WONDER YOU CANT THINK IT THOUGH..ya dills..[sorry imbis-lies]
Posted by one under god, Monday, 16 June 2014 9:09:35 AM
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oug: .....

Ay?
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 16 June 2014 10:10:37 AM
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In..*BLISS*..lies..jayb//[THE FURST FOOL/the laughing budda..The laughing,.or happy,..Buddha was actually\a monk who lived/after the time that the original Buddha did.

Buddha lived approximately 563 BCE –400.BC..[while Hotei/fool/lived approximately 830 CE – 902 CE.]So,..historical evidence shows that Hotei,..the popular,..big bellied monk,[public-farce-face].lived over a thousand years after Buddha.

The name.“Buddha”..however,..means..“enlightened one”,..[knowing/KNOWS..HAPPYNESS..LIES IN THE DOING-WE*r*dOING]

<<..it is not completely incorrect.to call Hotei a Buddha.as he was definitely enlightened...Although not..*the original Buddha,..he is considered to be..an incarnation of Buddha/FOOL..or a Bodhisattva...MAKING HIS..OWN STANCE...via chosen ignorance

[karmic-swing/back*lore][2DE GENERATION/NON-DEVIANCE]

This particular monk’s statues...show him perpetually..smiling...This is the way..the people remember him,..always laughing.or smiling.[the-fool]...[donT-WE/ALL-KNOW;BETTER*]',,<<.In fact he laughed all the time..[at seemingly nothing at all.]..He never needed anything to start his laughter.as it is said..*that his*..happiness came\from the joy of life/:..itself and the great contentment..he felt...IN..HIMSELF*.

It is indeed difficult..to keep from smiling..}:)
when one looks upon..the happy likeness*.>>

/of this\ever popular..mad-man-made'monk...
drunk..LAUGHING..AT-this..world/like jonah*dun.

many years/Hotei]lokie/..still sticks with me...Hotei
always carried..a large bag/sack..with him..It was considerably heavy with items..he/needed..to assist/,,the poor...When the question was posed to him,..“What is the essence of Zen?”,..

<<.the enlightened monk.simply put his bag down..""[on the ground/NOT-THE/ALTER]...When asked the second question,..“What is the actualization of Zen?”,>>..

the monk smiled
..<<..a great smile,..INFLATED/lung/bladder;
lift-assist*..bent over,..and picked..the bag/tool-sac..back up.

the story is symbolic..of carrying all/of-us
our/own..SKIL-SET..;our joys andsorrows,..or life-TOOLS/SKILLS/TALENTS\CREDITS/INTREsts..knowings..in general.

<<.When we put down our load,..we free ourselves
from the world..[we/allowed-becreated..all;around us..and...become what we were..in the beginning..and..we can/just be...[But to truly be..of service..and learn on our passage/we must\become a part of life..*and..pick up/that\what;we have chosen*..to carry.

So..the actualization/DOINGis i..[n experiencing the journeY.[TA0], while..the essence..is allowing ourselves..to just be...[ignorantly

Whatever the reason,..this symbol/of contentment,..prosperity,
through/endless-chains/of/broken-promises..=hope and happiness..is well worth having/around us..who couldn’t use\someone around who reminds us/that laughter..is so..very important?!

Hotei..may not be/the actualized\Buddha/..but he is\certainly/a symbol..of the contentment..that Buddha sought..for all-people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budai
ENJOY*/your\provledges.*
Posted by one under god, Monday, 16 June 2014 12:22:25 PM
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IM/ANGRY\re the flawed research..AGGRAVATED/BY SPECIAL INTRESTS..AND/the problems OF FUNDING..money-masters/love\new markets[like smokeless ciggies/are going to be huge

the money/2-b\..made/by\..outright-lies..are huge
the..marketing/financing-tools/franchised-modifieRS/LICENCE
AND,,FLAWED-MODELS ARE SIMPLY..SIN/SPIN BLING[JUST..TO GET THE NEXT SIN TAX..COW]

BUT..THE THING IS..THE ONE WITH THE MONEY..alone..CHOSES..WHICH PATH THE RESEARCH..may/must/TAKE'S..[THEN THERE IS\THE eager t0 please patriot/ss\stazie/mossad\and other intellegencia..scum/who will say and do anything to refute real proofs

[but]..it works predictablyrepressing/advancement/resisting-chnge/protecting casg-flows...plus[if govt..noticed it*..some one plans to make money from it.

[and.if guilt/blame\shame/sham/ridicule..can sin-tax it/thats it\..next thing ya got..a..revenue-raiding/drug-war

[govt actually..declares upon..its/own/empowers/creators\client/masters..[us]..[their..franchised/fiefdom..of serfs..]
[/4\u/to..lord*it-over]

the servant's/love\of..orders*/poweR\GREED-FEAR/drive us
by bad law..based upon bad acts/VIA--CORRUPTED.AUTCRATIC..malfeasences
and lies..like..[HEALTH..COSTS OF SMOKING=just under one billion..[not 32 billion]..

govt expenditure/for medicine..is..allready\too huge/so
they planned..to steal nicoteen delivery.[NEW-MARKETING/OPPERTUINITIES/NEW-PATENTS/NEW-FRANCHISE..[so how many..studies..we need to get..EXTRA9/BILL\billion..dr roxon?]

i see..the study..[saying]..the numbers..wilL drop]...[RE/TOOBACCO/USE]...ALSO/NOTED..ELECTICC CIGGIE-use..trippling[such..a greart-deLIVERY/SYSTEM

so To ensure..FUTURE/ADDICTIVE-revenue..we..GOT.indexation[ON/LEAVES;GOD-GREW/SUBSIDIES..ON/MENS PATENT[GMO]'NICOTEEN[40 TIMES STRONGER ADDICTIVE..THAn..LEAF

but/toobacco/willfall[researched-fasct]
but/govt-cash/cows..need..an..extra 3 billion..[for 3 years]=10 billio....to make up for the few..[organics/natural=bast]..who will quit...[wanna bet?]..

The history..of tobacco control..rarely sees any single initiative produce the spectacular changes..*demanded by such critics...[paqid/lobby]..One such example is that a February 2013 Department of *Finance[revenue-raising]..paper..*shows*!*>>.

without providing data,.PLEASE NOTE[DATA=OPTIONAL/PLUS 'modified"[like]..i recall deaths from booze[ACTUAL DEATH NUMBERS*]..were modified..from 5000/year..to 3000[because of the 'deemed/benifit'..of a few drinks[really 2000 who died of booze..didnt die*..LOL..*of booze

its\too/clever trev

no numbers..yET*
..<<..that the unprecedented 25 per cent tax increase on tobacco introduced overnight on 29 April 2010 led to an 11 per cent fall in apparent consumption (amount smoked), nearly double the 6 per cent which had been forecast at the time of the announcement.""

This sort of information is of critical importance*
to assessment*..of policies..[oppressive/,oral-policing]..to reduce organic/tobacco use.

<<..Tobacco customs and excise data..are absolutely critical to the evaluation of Australia's plain pack law and its total program of making smoking history...Data has been available since the turn of the last century...Without it we will see a continuation of the data-free bluster from govt and lobby..wanting ever bigger tax from ..[what they legislate..as sin]

also/noted..only 2/toobacco-leaf\manufacturing..in ozzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 10:07:42 AM
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oug give it up. Computer say, "NO." EEEAAARRRAAAANNNNT.
Posted by Jayb, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 10:41:36 AM
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