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Abbott's way : Comments

By Mike Pope, published 23/4/2014

The Australian prime minister Tony Abbott is renowned for calling climate science 'absolute crap'.

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Because of your argument I see Pollution and filth everyday in our waterways pumping into our skies but yet you don't think it matters
Well a whole lot of people do that's why i asked if you like living in filth and you keep denying it is happening carbon is only one part of pollution, If you sail the sea's as you say you would be well aware of the affect of heavy metal's and plastics are having on the ocean and fish as well,And I guess major Oil spill's are no real problem either,So keep denying we have a problem are you people really that dense.
Posted by Aussieboy, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 4:00:57 PM
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Dear Aussieboy,

Yes, there is pollution and the reason is the excessive number of humans on this earth.

Do ideologically-conscientious people, such as greenies, pollute less?
Do they bring less children to the world?
Do they not fly over across the globe to attend "climate-change" conferences?

Anyone who could produce pollution and filth out of mere intellectual arguments, should be considered the greatest magician/wizard of our times.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 4:16:52 PM
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I wish all the fetishist Greens would go find some real religion, leave the Workers alone and thereby help people. Green poses are merely a form of Status Competition with the focus on what they can get for themselves. Overwhelmingly of the Parasite Class, I sincerely hope they achieve their Rapture which is nothing but a knife at the poor, just leave and stand not upon the order of your going.
Posted by McCackie, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 4:27:27 PM
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Aussie boy

Oil is broken down fairly quickly out on the oceans. I've in the past 7 years only ever encountered a spill in a marina. Even then it quickly dissipated. They simply don't last.
Rubbish on the ocean... mate they are so vast and have very powerful currents an
D any rubbish mostly eventually finds it's way to where it originated ... land where you live.

Mate I ride a bike as my secondary transport. I don't use petrol. How about you? Sail boat is my primary. What are yours?
I generate all my power from solar and wind. I store it in a bank of batteries. How about you? I cook with gas. What about you? I eat only seafood and vegetables. How about you? I sanitise my waste before disposing it. How about you?I desalinate and produce my own water. How about you?
I don't own a widescreen tv, dishwasher or microwave and run only a laptop, mobile, sat phone and radios. How about you?

Now tell me who lives in the filth they are producing?

If you are honest you'll know who. And you should apologise for your meally mouth and hypocritical attitudes.

I actually live my beliefs. You simply mouth yours and try to shunt your guilt onto others.
Posted by imajulianutter, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 4:33:23 PM
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Leo Lane,

"You do have a tendency to misinform, Mike, even in small matters like Abbot’s description of climate science as absolute crap. He called it crap, and you added “absolute”. You do have a tendency to misinform, Mike, even in small matters like Abbot’s description of climate science as absolute crap. He called it crap, and you added “absolute”. That, of course, might just demonstrate that you are careless.

This is what Abbott said - verbatim:

"The climate change argument is absolute crap, however the politics are tough for us because 80 per cent of people believe climate change is a real and present danger".

That, of course, might just demonstrate that you are careless.
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 4:59:11 PM
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Hi imajulianutter, I agree with you, it's a fairly clean way of living. I've done a few miles myself. About 53000 nautical miles in my own boat, at last count, plus a few elsewhere. I gather that you, like me when I was cruising, don't like motoring. I once sailed from Honiara to Sydney, via Cairns & the reef without starting the motor, but I did run the Honda generator a few times to help charge the batteries.

You do wax a bit too lyrical though I'm afraid. Those nice white things you pull up to catch the wind, they are oil you know, as is the rope you control them with, & the paint you use to preserve the thing.

Depending on it's construction, there is a fair bit of energy in steel, oil in fiberglass, & again energy in all the metal fastenings, & oil again in the glue & calking materials, holding things together & the ocean out in the old wooden things.

Still we certainly used less than those green inner city chattering class. You know the ones, they have to ride an elevator to get home, rather than row the dingy.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 5:02:54 PM
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