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Kerry confronts ghosts in state of confusion : Comments

By David Singer, published 21/2/2014

The Israeli authorities have blocked 70 patients from Gaza from entering Israel to receive medical treatment because their transfer documents were marked 'State of Palestine', officials told AFP on Wednesday

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http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2014/03/02/the-harm-aipac-brings-to-america/
AIPAC, which is a de facto agent for a foreign government, has influence on U.S. policy out of all proportion to the number of Americans who support its policies.

http://www.blacklistednews.com/AIPAC%3A_Treasury_Secretary_Jack_Lew%3A_%22_The_future_of_the_United_States_is_tied_to_the_future_of_Israel.%22/33318/0/38/38/Y/M.html
AIPAC’s influence on US policy–pushing it in the direction of unconditional support for Israel–increases anti-American sentiment around the world.
http://www.activistpost.com/2014/03/israel-accused-of-war-crimes-in-west.html
http://www.federaljack.com/israeli-agents-posed-as-cia-to-recruit-terrorists/
http://www.blacklistednews.com/The_Queen_of_England_Deals_Extensively_in_%2417_Trillion_Depleted_Uranium_Trade/33264/0/0/0/Y/M.html?morestories=obinsite

http://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2014/03/03/why-the-world-should-join-the-russo-chinese-arab-offensive-against-the-us-dollar/
http://undergrounddocumentaries.com/the-rothschild-family-puppet-masters-worlds-only-trillionaires/

"YOU JUST DON'T INVADE A COUNTRY
ON PHONY PRETEXT IN ORDER TO ASSERT YOUR INTEREST!"
Sec John Kerry
http://xrepublic.tv/node/7711

http://bit.ly/1eI8UuK
Posted by one under god, Monday, 3 March 2014 5:21:24 PM
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#Yuyutsu

Pity you are not prepared to share why your Hindu family went to Palestine more than 80 years ago.

Your facetious reply was unnecessary.

The idea of a Hindu family going to Palestine where Jews were busy rebuilding the Jewish national Home in their ancient biblical and historic homeland leads me to speculate your family was like the hundreds of thousands of Arabs who flocked there - attracted by the Jews breathing life again into a neglected backwater of the Ottoman Empire ruled by the Turks for 400 years until it was conquered by the British and French - just 0.01% of the Ottoman Empire conquered by those victorious allies.

They must have had some close shaves - especially in 1948 when six Arab armies invaded Palestine in breach of international law with the intention of wiping out all the Jews living there. Your relations sure would have been in trouble had the Jews not survived that onslaught.

At least it is nice to know they are happy living in Israel as Israeli citizens in a minority community among an overwhelming majority of Jews.

Maybe they had something to do with the Baha'is - whose world headquarters are in Israel where freedom of religion and worship is allowed to all.

Compare that to Saudi Arabia.

Nice to know that you are not calling for all Jews to vacate the West Bank. Problem is the PLO and Abbas won't agree to allow any of them to stay there as citizens of a new Palestinian State ( or even agree to their living there as citizens of Israel unless the PLO is given some Israeli land as compensation.)

That sounds like a racist and apartheid policy to me.

What is your view?

If the PLO persist with this policy - how do you think the two-state solution can ever be achieved?
Posted by david singer, Monday, 3 March 2014 5:48:14 PM
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Is AIPAC trying to stop you from seeing this video?
http://bit.ly/1eHEAQJ

http://www.sovereignindependentuk.co.uk/2014/03/01/ukraine-pnac-zionist-idiots-provoking-wwiii/

The report documents “mounting bloodshed” in the occupied territories as a result of the Israeli army’s use of “unnecessary, arbitrary and brutal force against Palestinians
http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2014/03/01/amnesty-international-calls-on-international-community-to-cut-off-arms-to-israel/

http://rt.com/news/iran-obama-assassination-scientists-443/

http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_03_02/Dozens-of-foreigners-attended-Euromaidan-protests-Russian-participant-6520/
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/03/01/352716/iaea-rejects-israels-antiiran-claims/
http://henrymakow.com/2013/08/Bin-Laden-Hamas-Islamists-CIA-Mossad-Tools%20.html

http://investmentwatchblog.com/over-one-million-private-security-guards-now-in-us/

One-Million Protest Blocks Israel
http://www.roitov.com/articles/1e6.htm

"We will take revenge against Israel," said an Ultra-Orthodox leader shortly before the protest. On March 2, 2014, as these lines are being written, the largest protest in Israel's history is taking place. Its topic is the new Conscription Law, which attempts to conscript Ultra-Orthodox Jews to the IDF.+
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/22345-the-rights-ayn-rand-hypocrisy

http://twitter.com/20committee?original_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.businessinsider.com%2Frussia-took-crimea--what-happens-next-is-critical-to-all-of-ukraine-2014-3&tw_i=440181361853206528&tw_p=tweetembed

The One Party State, The War Party

http://xrepublic.tv/node/7702

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wrath_of_God
Posted by one under god, Monday, 3 March 2014 7:36:40 PM
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Dear David,

<<What is your view?

If the PLO persist with this policy - how do you think the two-state solution can ever be achieved?>>

I stated my views here at least 100 times, but I don't mind stating them for the 101st:

Israel should move back to its 1967 borders.

The Arabs would not be impressed by that - but they will still be impressed with Israel's military might, which is all that matters, so they need not be consulted.
Then a big wall should be constructed over Israel's border to help preventing terror.

Currently Israel's deterrence is weak because the Arabs know that 1) it is not united from within; and 2) the world would oppose Israel and limit its military/retaliatory capacity. However, once the occupation is over, both shall change and no Arab will dare to raise his finger against Israel.

As for my "facetious reply", this for a fact IS the reason why MOST Israelis are there. Birth is the number 1 reason, followed by being brought in as children by one's parents, then there are those who came for economic reasons; or to join a family-member already in Israel; or because they had no better place to go. The remaining ones who live in Israel for Jewish-ideological reasons are therefore quite a minority!

I repeat - Ordinary Israelis are not there for Judaism, but are normal people who try to have a life and make the most out of it.

Given that the foundation of Judaism, the Torah, was proven false time and again, unless you wish to argue for its validity, isn't it time for those defrauded to cut their losses and move on, making the best of their resources and the country they built, even if it was accidental?

Every region in the world has problems: we have fires, others have earthquakes, tsunamis, bitter-cold, volcanoes, pollution, malaria, hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, etc. So Israel has Arabs all around. It's not easy, it might have been a mistake, but it's no worse than what the rest of us have to put up with.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 3 March 2014 11:26:09 PM
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#Yuyutsu

You state:
"However, once the occupation is over, both shall change and no Arab will dare to raise his finger against Israel."

There was no occupation between 1948-1967 yet the Arabs sure raised their finger against Israel during that time.

Read what happened:

http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/foreignpolicy/terrorism/palestinian/pages/which%20came%20first-%20terrorism%20or%20occupation%20-%20major.aspx

Why should it be any different this time round?

You further state:
"Every region in the world has problems: we have fires, others have earthquakes, tsunamis, bitter-cold, volcanoes, pollution, malaria, hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, etc. So Israel has Arabs all around. It's not easy, it might have been a mistake, but it's no worse than what the rest of us have to put up with."

How many wars have been fought between Australia and its neighbours in the last 65 years?

How many rockets and projectiles have been indiscriminately fired into Australian population centres in the last 13 years?

How many nations have threatened to wipe Australia off the map in the last 65 years?

How many Australians have been the victims of terrorist attacks in Australia in the last 65 years?

How many countries in the world - fellow member States of the United Nations - do not recognise Australia?

When did Australia last have compulsory military service and for what length of time was such service compulsory?

Finally:

Do your comments in relation to the foundations of Judaism being "proven false" equally apply to the foundations of Islam, Christianity and even Hinduism?
Posted by david singer, Tuesday, 4 March 2014 7:45:53 AM
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aVID/QUOTE.<<..Why should it be any different..this time round?>>

peace..is easier/to sell/than war
nice/acts beget\nice acts..[turn/other..cheek]..smile/begets smile.

<<>.>>australians..have fought..in many wars[who is not our neighbour]..but its we israel/usa thart attack them/lest we forget.

<<..How many rockets and projectiles..have been indiscriminately fired into Australian population centres..in the last 13 years?>>

i havnt..kePT COUNT..BUT JUST LAST NEW-YEARS..I SAW/HEARD/FELT..MUST BE 5000..OF EM..JUST AT THE COAT-HANGER..[MATE TO US ITS SPECTATOR SPORT/till its drones looking for 'EVIL'

<How many nations have threatened to wipe Australia off the map>>
YES..THE MAP..[not off the face of the earth]
there is figurative/allegorical..AND Literal/catogorical

,,..<<How many Australians have been the victims of terrorist attacks in Australia in the last 65 years?>>[..ITS HARD TO GET DEFINATE NUMBERS BUT ESTIMATES RUN NEAR 2 PERCENT/ARE Criminalized by govt every year/for possession of a terror/plant*..[DESPITE SEE GENESIS 1;29]..A PLANT..LOL/deemed a drug..just so COPS/GOVT AGENTS who are REALLY..FIGHTING A WAR ON AUSSIE KIDS...[JUST IN qld alone..36.075..in 1999]

<<.How many countries in the world - fellow member States of the United Nations - do not recognize Australia?>>..australia is a British colony../..much like israel is..

just because your recognized/BY..BALFORE/LETTER/..or A britISH 'AUSTRALIA ACT..DONT validate the invasion/colonisation..looting/exploiting..of the many other COLONISERS..FAUX INVADING/PAPER DONT VALIDATE THE INVASION.

<<When did Australia last have compulsory military service and for what length of time was such service compulsory?..[vietnam]

Finally:..the foundations of Judaism HAS AND IS being "proven false"
BY FINDIng the 'scaRED SITES DUG FOR PROOF/have the wrong timings/material claimed to be there..just isnt there[thus fables]

i see no other plAce/SPECIfIC..rESEARCH inVAlidaTING THE OTHERS
THAts the problem..of making fableS FOR LAND...THE LAND REFUTES THE CLAIM
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 4 March 2014 8:43:03 AM
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