YEBIGA you are a compendium of clichés.

Now we're on to blowback; militant, fundamentalist islam is the West's fault because of past injustices done by the West or its proxy Israel to islam.

What a bunch of BS. This is Pilger crap 101.

If blowback were correct the Vietnamese would be radicalised beyond anything islam has shown so far.

And why haven't the former colonies of the USSR ended up deranged? Or was that oppression ok because it was done under the name of communism?

Islam is the perfect religion; it is dynamically tribalised with no centralised authority which is why when they are not uniting against the West they are in perpetual conflict with themselves.

The West did not create the religious impulse which has its most pure incarnation in islam but has developed by removing religious authority; that is subjugating the religious impulse to secular legal and political frameworks.

The former 'great' churches of Christianity have been subject to secular law for their outrages and Western society is all the better for that.

Islam is resisting this process. It was inevitable that such a 'perfect' religion would enter into conflict with a secular society because that is what religion does.

The religious impulse is part of being human; I don't think it is 'subhuman' but I do think it is a force for chaos and destruction; when a society is governed by the religious impulse it will aggressively seek to spread that belief. That is why islam is in conflict with the West not because the West has treated islam unfairly.

Islam hates the West because of what it IS, not what it has allegedly done.

Until islam can undertake a submission to secular law the conflict will persist. The ability of the West to resist islam is made all the more difficult because of opinions like yours which seem to proliferate in 'elite' circles.

Brian of Buderim. Your cheap diversion of shouting "ad hominem", only highlights the refusal of a Research Fellow at ANU to engage in debate.

We really should find those dreadful people who went out & captured all these nice Muslims, dragged them over here, probably in chains, then locked them up on Manus, or Christmas Islands.

It really is despicable of these people, who like slavers of old, captured these people, & dragged them away from their happy prosperous life in their country of birth.

What we must do is offer these poor captives repatriation to their happy homeland, to show our humanity.

What's that you say? We have offered it to them. They are only locked up because they won't accept our offer. Now I really can't believe that.

Why, if they are free to go home, at any time, are some fools so cranky about our treatment of them. No I can't believe they would be cranky just because some of us don't want more rioters & possible rapists set free in our communities.

Oh & YEBIGA, all this only happens because middle eastern Muslims are such gutless wonders. They vowed to push all the Jews out of Israel into the sea when the Poms left, but found fighting armed men, rather than women & children, was too tough for them. Huge numerical superiority is not enough to make up for cultural inferiority. The term gutless wonders really does fit, like the 4 of them who attacked my son, but ran like the curs they are, when 2 men stopped to assist.

If these Muslims had even half a backbone there would be no Israel. They have truly earned what they have, but don't turn your back on them, that is really dangerous.

It is a pity our humanity prevents us treating this rubbish as it truly deserves.

Once again YEBIGA/Peirot/GAYBIE you are still deflecting from the Topic as usual.

Let me remind you. The Topic is, "Indefinite detention causes serious harm." Please, once again, stick to the subject.

Please, fellow Posters, I beg of you, do not play his game. He does it with every Topic. If we were talking about the ME then he would be talking about Manus Island. He never fails to deflect the Topic to something else. $tu## him.

One might ask why the Tamil refugees/asylum seekers from Sri Lanka are not all seeking asylum among their co-religonists and fellow Tamils in India.
Why make a hazardous boat journey when it is possible to walk, at times and at others to swim, to India?

It's called Adam's Bridge, perhaps there are soldiers there to stop illegal entry?

Cohenite appears to have seriously attempted to refute the validity of the concept of blowback against Israel and the USA - get ready - By arguing that the Vietnamese, who had been at war with the USA also, have not become radically anti- American and on the contrary are quite friendly to Westerners.

Now there appear to me only two possibilities why Cohenite would attempt such a patently hopeless refutation: he/she does not know that the war in vietnam is over and that the USA and Australia amongst others were actually defeated and withdrew their troops back in the1970s and/or he/she is unable to conceptualize the manifest distinction between Israel and the USAs continuing occupation and presence in the Middle East and the USAs non continuing occupation of Vietnam.

To help clarify, think on the one hand, someone has invaded your home and you are able to overwhelm them, they leave and apologise and you kind of, after a time,
go alright let's move on. That's kind of like Vietnam

While on the other hand, in the ME, the invader beats you up and won't leave and continues to beat you up and vilifies you to boot. Now that's kind of Israel and the US in the Middle East.

You see the difference, now? Its a bit like the concept that time heals?

Or think of an abusive relationship - whilst your in the abusive relationship, tempers are understandably frayed and once it is over, after a while, you can be civil to each other. The later is like Vietnam and the former the current Israeli/USA occupation in the Arab world.

I hope this helps.