we were a country proud of our impeccable human rights record, and our social welfare safety net. Now we are proud of being proud.
Yebiga,
Yes, what has changed ? The influx of so many who began exploiting this & Australians are now fed up with keeping people who are demanding more & more for nothing but hatred in return. That's not a good way to build relations or indeed build a Nation.

YEBIGA that comment of yours reflects a common and completely incorrect attempt to establish a relativistic equality between Western society and Islamic societies.

It is wrong because in Islamic societies oppression and brutality are systemic.

In Western society there will always be individual nutters and mongrels who do terrible things. Those vile acts like the ones you listed are not lauded by our society.

In Islamic societies the treatment of women like the example I gave and the inculcation of children to the fanaticism of islam is de rigueur, completely normal. Have you seen the pictures of Lebanese and Palestinian children, for example, dressed as martyrs? Did you see the picture during the Sydney muslim riots of the infant holding the sign saying "Behead all those who insult the prophet"?

http://www.news.com.au/national/probe-into-boy-holding-beheading-sign/story-fncynjr2-1226475238920

There is no equivalence between random acts of criminality in the West and the INHERENT barbarism of Islamic cultures.

I just wonder at the inability of advocates of the boat people and islam in general to not be able to see what islam is and what it does. After all it is not as though muslims are backwards in coming forth and demanding they hate the West and want their sharia to be introduced.

I can only assume people like you who ignore this overwhelming evidence are blind, deaf and unfortunately not dumb. Or you really support and prefer islam.

cohenite,
come to think of it I question the validity of Yebiga's "we"

Peirot: Appears to be a fair amount of sickos here and, I know this might shock you, they are almost never Muslims and almost always Secular Christians - good old quintessential Aussie battlers no less.

No, but we don't kill our daughters if she talks to a boy the parents don't approve of, do we?

I suppose it's a matter of perception. Like, If you put a black greyhound in with a clowder of white cats you would see the difference right away.

But if you got a pack of black male Rotwheilers & one black bitch in with them. You wouldn't notice. Would you?

Cohenite
It may surprise you to know I don't support or have a preference for any religion. These imaginary friends are continuously used to manipulate us by politicians of all colours even Christians to justify and incite the worst in us.

Now if Australia and the west, namely the USA, took an even handed approach to all religious extremism, that would be one thing, then I and many critics of our policy towards muslims would at the least see some positive direction and a principled position.

But this is not what happens. It is interesting that you will cite the extremism of Palestinians and the Lebanese but not the extremism of Israel. Why?

Read Exodus chapter 24: - 30 to 33
Here straight out of our bible and the Jewish Torah are the instructions from god himself. The promise of the land to be given to them, the promise that the locals will be one by one defeated and displaced, and god himself ordering that they never enter into treaties with these locals.

Now, not only do the Jewish zionists believe this but Christian fundamentalists in America have been incited to believe this. And it is precisely this powerful coalition of Israeli and Christian fundamentalism which has systemically and deliberately pursued policies to enrage, embitter The Islamic world.

Is this not fanaticism too? I am all for condemning all of fanaticism but the moral equivocation which condemns one party Islam but ignores Israel is repugnant and manifestly naive. How many UN resolutions have Israel violated? How often will our private media report this? The USAs reflex veto in the UN against any sanctions directed at Israel is a standing joke. How often is this reported or known by the average Australian

I entirely agree that much of the Islamic Arab world is very backward, it does not mean however, I need to support the inhumane bullying by forces who wish to exploit their backwardness and powerlessness.

Jayb,

You didn't comment on,

"Most of what Barlow says is, by her own admission, hearsay and people who hang themselves in front of witnesses are sure of being rescued.".