Good evening to you YEBIGA...

I've just read your last thread, and some of the material you've mentioned, I feel it necessary that I correct some of what you've just said ?

In part you said '..if the US can't subdue the citizenry after 10 years of occupation, there's something seriously wrong...'? Actually, that's not quite true ? Vietnam particularly, that war was not lost in the steaming paddy fields or swampy jungles of that country.

In reality, the war was lost in New York's Times Square, the grounds adjacent to the Washington Memorial in DC, in Martin Place, Sydney, and Bourke and Swanston Streets in Melbourne, and many other places in those countries who had unwittingly committed troops to that unwinnable war.

It was public opinion that defeated the military. You see it's very hard to prosecute a war with one hand tied behind your back. I could write volumes about that war, few would be interested, even fewer would even care.

Indi,
Plenty, some genial American constables posing for a group photo:
http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110721155016/deadliestwarrior/images/8/80/Swat.jpg

This may also be of interest:
Propaganda by the Deed, Fourth Generation Warfare and the Decline of the State
An Examination of the History of the Decline of the State’s Monopoly on Violence and Warmaking
By Keith Preston
http://attackthesystem.com/propaganda-by-the-deed-fourth-generation-warfare-and-the-decline-of-the-state/

Actually it WAS the Yanks that lost the war. At the Paris Accord it was the Yanks turn to speak first. The North Vietnamese had decided to throw the town in & would announce it next day. When proceedings started next day they stood up & said they had something to announce. The Yanks objected saying that it was their turn to speak first & they dam well would. Then the Yanks capitulated. Much to the amazement of the North Vietnamese. (General Giap's Memoirs.)

Let's get back to the subject. Let's teach the these kids to be good Fanatical Fundamentalist Christians.

Jayb,
Sorry to disagree but I think we should teach them to be fundamentalist atheists with a sense of responsibility & good will.

Steeleredux
I am interested in your thoughts regarding the self appointed adversaries to reason which proliferate on this site, namely the 2 jays and their side kick.

Can you make any sense of their posts? It seems to me their purpose is only to disrupt any coherent discussion, no more no less. Are you of the same view or am I missing something? Is jay of melbourne some white supremacist? You would think that hardly possible.

One consistent theme they purport is that human rights and those who believe in them cause wars and much of the worlds ills. This is reason attacking itself. A sort of post modern right wing revenge. I have to admit it is perverse but an interesting ploy. Entirely disingenuous but interesting.

So what do you think,are they sincere or just vandals

Well, Welcome back Poirot or as you are under your real name now. YEBIGA. What's that Arabic for. !D)uT. How was Syria, Made it back in one piece I see.

I see you haven't changed your spots though, still deflecting the topic. Nine Posts & not one mention of the Kids in
detention.

You do know that that is what this topic is, don't you? I did complain to Graham but I am suspicious that there maybe some Politically Correctness in there somewhere. Not saying that he is Biased though, far from it.

Now back to the Topic.

You do remember the Topic is "Kids in Detention" don't you. How do you feel about bring all the kids out of detention & teach them to be Good Law Abiding Australian Citizens with Australian values? None of your Middle Eastern values. I think that would be a top idea. No Parents of course. The kids could see their parents on weekends. The kids would be well fed, get a good education & Western, especially Australian, values.

Good idea or not. Please try to stay on topic.