Hello again SM,

No, not at all.

Re: "This was immediately arresting because of the PM’s legendary economic illiteracy."

Did you click the embedded link, SM? There's Peter Costello: “Abbott is an economic illiterate.”

We could have had John Hewson: “He has no interest in economics and has no feeling for it – he is innumerate”.

Are Costello and Hewson "left whingers", SM? Or a “small incestuous clique of the far left”?

That is adequate corroboration because: (a) Costello and Hewson were senior party members when Abbott was trying to impress, (b) both worked with him closely, and (c) both have real economics credentials.

Re Abbott’s Oxford transcript, no, it shows no economics at all. Just eight subjects: 2 x philosophy, 4 x politics and 2 x political history. No economics. Correct?

But even if Abbott passed basic eco at Sydney Uni, the reality is that he exposed his complete ignorance of contemporary issues at Davos.

Please read this carefully, SM, and follow the links:

http://www.independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/abbotts-davos-disaster,6098

His Davos keynote speech was embarrassing! Just foolish, naive, idiotic nonsense.

If we traded my old car for your home, SM, would we both be richer? Or just one of us? Would our combined wealth be greater or the same?

Well, according to Mr Abbott at Davos, “Every time one person freely trades with another, wealth increases.”

And here’s another: “Progress usually comes one step at a time.”

I wonder if the world’s leading economists had ever considered that before.

Here’s an exercise, SM:

Go to Bloomberg’s news site: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/

In the News search box, write ‘Davos’. It shows ‘about 2,295 results’.

Then in the search box type ‘Davos Lagarde’. [Christine Lagarde gave a speech on the same day Tony Abbott gave the keynote speech as president of the G20.]

You will find: ‘about 87 results’.

Then type in ‘Davos Abbott’. You will get ‘about 0 results’.

SM, the reality is that he was humiliated by his ineptitude.

And you were not well-served by Dennis Shanahan telling you the opposite of the truth.

Don’t let them suck you in SM.

Cheers,

AA

alan wrong,

they have not 'stopped the information about the boats'. They simply refuse to release information immediately. There are weekly news releases about arrivals.

See what I mean about you greens/labor media alliance. To you one illegal immigrant landed due to illness means the boats are still arriving.

The boat he was on was probably scuttled and his crewmates were returned to Indonesian waters in a 'luxury lifeboat'.

Boats are not arriving Alan.
I know because of the lying record of Gillard and Rudd you expect Governments to lie, but most of use are prepared to take the Abbott Government at face value, give them a fair go and believe them. They are closing detention centres. And believe me if there was the lightest suggestion boats were arriving the idiots at the ABC would blow it all out of proportion. That is their form but there are silent. Not peep out of them. And all you have is aspersion.

Here Alan is an excellent link detailing Tony Abbott's degrees.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbotts-oxford-transcript-released-20131125-2y6a1.html

You should read it ... you gave it to us.

Hello again,

@Imajulianutter:

Re: “they have not 'stopped the information about the boats'. They simply refuse to release information immediately. There are weekly news releases about arrivals.”

Keith, just go to any of the transcripts of the interviews and count the number of times Mr Morrison or General Campbell respond to legitimate questions with “I can’t provide that information because it’s an on-water operational matter”, or words to that effect.

Then count the number of obvious lies.

Last week, a 30-year veteran of the diplomatic corp, Tony Kevin, wrote this about Mr Abbott and Mr Morrison:

Operation Sovereign Borders “has compounded the offence by an insincere ‘apology’ that claimed falsely that our Navy ships made ‘positional errors’ in Indonesia's complex archipelagic waters: a lie so readily refuted by commonsense logic and seamanship as to be grossly insulting to Indonesia.”

Refer here: http://www.eurekastreet.com.au/article.aspx?aeid=38805#.Uu63PD2SzHQ

You are being kept in the dark, Keith. And you are being lied to. In a liberal democracy you really should not accept this. Unless you want your freedoms in other areas curtailed also.

Because history shows us that this is how corruption and tyranny begin – when the people meekly accept the lies and arrogant refusals to answer vital questions.

Re: “The boat he was on was probably scuttled and his crewmates were returned to Indonesian waters in a 'luxury lifeboat'.”

What “boat he was on”, Keith? A boat that arrived in Australian waters? So you admit the boats are still arriving?

Of course they are! Don’t let them suck you in, Keith.

Re: “Here Alan is an excellent link detailing Tony Abbott's degrees.”

Yes, I have read that. Just eight subjects: 2 x philosophy, 4 x politics and 2 x political history. No economics. Correct?

So who has been telling porkies in this thread, Keith, hey?

Cheers,

Alan A

Because of the lies and secrets of the present Abbott Liberal Government regarding boat arrivals and other, which every detail is kept from the citizens of Australia, this being completely wrong, how on earth can any one on OLO say that this or that is correct, when the Government only want you to know what they want you to know, even then is it correct. I find it disturbing how certain writers are so sure that what is told on the so called weekly report by Government, that it is the truth, please take your blinkers off, when has any Government ever told the truth.

AA,

You are really determined to go down in flames!

As for Abbott's qualifications, I see that the recognition by oxford of his bachelor of economics has finally forced you to retreat from the lie.

Sidney University requires an ATAR of 99 (top 1% of school results) to enter law, which should be the first clue that Abbott is seriously smart, and that Oxford gives scholarships based on graduate results, that should indicate that he didn't just scrape through either. Secondly your postulation that Oxford's prestigious MA in Philosophy, Politics and Economics contains no economics is ludicrous. Considering that the course ran from 1981 to 83 would indicate that the final transcript of examinations did not cover the entirely of subjects. Googling you, I could find no post graduate qualifications at all which explains the ignorance of economics in your articles.

I don't read the IA, as the articles consist of far left whingers writing polemics, with at least one frequent contributor a proven liar.

I put Abbott and Davos in Google and found 694000 results with many articles from around the world.

As for the off hand comments from Hewson and Costello, if you are seriously going to base your assessment of Abbott on these you are deluded. Perhaps you should refer to their more recent glowing reports, and scathing assessments of the real economic idiots of Rudd, Swan and Gillard.

Googling you, I could find no graduate nor post graduate qualifications at all which explains the ignorance of economics in your articles. Are you humiliated by your ineptitude.

No, not at all, SM.

Just not the least bit persuasive.

Mark Kenny published the full transcript: just eight subjects: 2 x philosophy, 4 x politics and 2 x political history. No economics. Correct?

If you want to claim there were other subjects not on the transcript, then it is up to you to prove it. No?

And if Abbott is “seriously smart” as you claim, why is there not an A++ or A+ or A or A- or A- - among the scores?

From the 694000 results showing articles on Mr Abbott at Davos, SM, is there one written by anyone other than a Murdoch employee in Australia which favourably reports on Mr Abbott’s contribution?

Please post the link here, SM.

Thanks.

Cheers,

AA